Lemmy: “that is a fair point”

Reddit: “you fucking moron”

  • Plaid_Kaleidoscooe@lemmy.world
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    I hope Lemmy moves past this phase of directly measuring itself in every way, real and imagined, against Reddit. Doesn’t seem like a healthy way to start the community. We need our own identity if we ever hope for this to take hold.

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    platform bias is real, folks. i’ve had lots of the lemmy F’s since i’ve been here.

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          I made the mistake of poking my head into /c/communism the other day. If you have a constructive opinion about something, speak up and join the chat over there! You will soon learn that you are a fascist baby killer as well, regardless of who you actually are.

          It was a breath of fresh air, lemmie tell ya.

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            Yep, that was one of the places. Well not /c/communism directly, more like /c/latestagecapitalism showed up on my feed, which is essentially the same thing. I responded to a post without looking at the community, saying (respectfully) that I thought a 70% tax is ridiculous for any demographic or socioeconomic status and I wondered how and why innovation happens in that kind of tax system, and I learned how many ways my family could die at their hands and how I’m the reason death and disease happen in the world. The mods removed the threats but I removed my comment to stop them from returning. I didn’t know it was the communism part 2 /c/.

            What’s worse is THEIR threats were being upvoted by the community and my respectful original comment and replies were being downvoted like crazy. It wasn’t just the commenters - the voters were complicit. I had ZERO upvotes other than my own. There isn’t a decent human over there if you’re not a communist. They want to kill you. They told me, in lots of ways.

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              To be fair, the top tax rate during the most productive and innovative time in American history was 91%.

              THAT is what allowed innovation to actually happen - because that excess wealth was actually being used to help eliminate poverty and bring the brilliant minds that had been hamstrung by poverty into their true potential.

              It seems that you have been brainwashed by the far-right “libertarians” who want nothing more than to rule their company towns with iron fists.

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    As a Reddit user who’s recently moved to Lemmy - that’s a fair point, you fucking moron

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    I’m wondering if it’s the lurkers. Based on personal experience: I enjoyed Reddit from the sidelines for years–never made an account. Switch to Lemmy and few users means no conversation, so I figured I’d jump in. But it turns out I’m a pretty boring, literal, mild-mannered commenter. Nice, but no zing. I’m still kind of waiting for the banter.

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    I am currently in the middle of a lengthy political argument with someone on c/politics, and we fundamentally disagree on things, but both of us are being cordial about it and I appreciate that.

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      I got a bit heated there about something yesterday because I had irl stresses going on, and when I calmed down I went and edited my comment to make nicer and apologize for rudeness.

      To my surprise, the comment is clearly still upvoted, and the guy I was talking with told me not to sweat it. A few times now I’ve posted a controversial opinion and observed it, and always, it’s at mildly upvoted.

      Honestly this makes me wonder how much of the downvotes were from bots or paid shills.

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      I just came from politics and basically it has devolved into name calling and piss poor hypocrisy, salted with thinly veiled death threats. Feels like home

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        Reddit just became blocking, banning and censorship. I don’t care if somebody disagrees with me, the muting of dissent or debate or discourse or whatever was really sinister to me. People have different opinions, we shouldn’t be so quick to deny them freedom of speech.

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          The uproar in c/politics is about the mods(disclosure including me) are opposed to censorship

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    So far my experience on Lemmy.world is more hostile than I was expecting. Very quick to downvote and troll here. Hoping I’ve only just had the misfortune of finding a lot of bad eggs quickly???

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      Imo I’d say lemmy.world is most Reddit-like of all the Lemmy servers. Though there are always a handful to deal with on any server. Report to admins if you witness toxic, aggressive kind of behaviour.

      If you are willing to keep your mind open a bit and listen as much as speak, beehaw.org might be your pace.

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      Lemmy.world got big fast. Almost everything I see from Lemmy.world isn’t particularly good because of this. It seems to have a lot of low effort content and more hostility. It’s the instance that the laziest group of migrants joined, and it shows. A lot of people didn’t look past the instance with the highest user count. No offense to anyone who joined it, this might not be you just some of the people there are this.

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    Aren’t a ton of Lemmy users from Reddit? That being said, I’ve had more positive interactions here than on Reddit, but I haven’t been on Lemmy that long.

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      The subset of users that switched to Lemmy is smart enough to get over the “select an instance”-hurdle and fine with being on a smaller website with less content. This results in a different kind of interaction. Poeple here seem to still remember that there are actually living people behind those usernames. If Lemmy keeps growing there will be more chances to have the proper “go fuck yourself”-kind of interaction we are used to.

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    Just wait. The only reason why Lemmy is more polite is because it’s smaller. I think that attitude comes with the territory, unfortunately. If you want to have a less toxic community, the first thing you need to do is get rid of the downvote button. Downvotes are inherently toxic. Lemmy is actually worse than reddit in this regard, because you can actually see the ratio of upvotes to downvotes. So, even if your comment has a high score, you can still feel shitty knowing that X number of people downvoted it.

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      Also, Reddit votes are fuzzed, and I think maybe delayed. It’s very echochambery because I never see people with a close number of upvotes and downvotes- it’s always one person in a discussion 90+% upvoted and another person(me) 90+% downvoted

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    TBH I’ve seen (and engaged in) plenty of the latter on Lemmy too. The only place where I’ve seen such behavior actually banned was themotte