…we’ve all violated national security oaths and SCIF protocol?..yeah, no…
What the fuck headline is that. No, we haven’t done that, because we’re careful about that shit.
Way to normalize a massive failure of leadership and criminal act, USA Today.
Well, the newspaper is certainly living up to its name.
Trying to fucking normalize this, complicit media bitch. What a shit article.
uh no i’ve never accidentally added a journalist to a group chat while laughing about bombing people in the middle east.
You gotta admit, though, that 11-year-old boy might make a good Secretary of Defense after this one.
!That’s why the Trump administration’s Signalgate blunder was all anyone could talk about on news shows and social media, in workplaces, even in schools, said New York University psychology professor Tessa West.
Even West’s 11-year-old son came home from school Monday and confessed that he, too, had once added the wrong person to a group chat. “Mommy I did that, I did exactly what those Trump people did,” he told her.
“For 11-year-old boys, this is the most relatable thing that the Trump administration has done, which just shows you just how ubiquitous this experience is from Slack channels to group chats,” West said. “We’ve all done this.”!<
What a trash article. It reads like propaganda. This kind of reporting is frustrating. Framing a serious security breach—like the Trump administration’s Signal group chat blunder—as relatable because “even an 11-year-old has done it” feels disingenuous at best. Using a child’s anecdote to soften the impact of a significant government mistake trivializes the issue and distracts from the consequences of the breach.
We’re not talking about accidentally texting the wrong person in a school group chat. We’re talking about high-level officials mistakenly including someone in a discussion tied to sensitive military operations. That’s not “relatable”—that’s a failure in operational security, and it deserves scrutiny, not spin.
We’re also talking about high-level people illegally using a non-qualified app to avoid federal record keeping laws.
signalgate blunder
Can we fucking not add “-gate” to the end of everything that happens? It’s so overused that it diminishes the importance of actually-dangerous events like this one.
It all started with that Watergategate scandal.
What happens if we have a scandal about water?
Hydrogate
Rolls off the tongue better than aquagate would, that’s for sure.
Avoiding hackneyed terms would literally be a Game Changer!
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I might even bomb Yemen next month… I mean I’m not going to tell a reporter about it, though, I’m not as stupid as an 11-year-old boy.
It’s nothing, just a little bit of light treason.
Those are balls.
I can’t think of a time when I added the wrong person to a group chat. I’m sure it’s happened, but probably not in the past 10-15 years.
And my online chats are pretty low-stakes, so it’s not like I’m trying very hard.
A few friends of mine used to have a sms-based group chat we used for many years. One of those friends kept losing phones and getting new numbers. At some point one of his older numbers texted something to the tune of “what the fuck is this, why are you texting me?!”. It turns out the old number had been reassigned.
then again, no state secrets were exchanged.
This article goes to great lengths to make it appear as if something hugely important really isn’t that big a deal. No, it’s not “relatable”. No, it isn’t “something we’ve all done”. This is treason.
They broke countless laws, protocols, and regulations that were put in place for good reason, by people who were clearly much more careful and intelligent than them. Still, even these stupid, arrogant assholes should have known better.
I will never read this MAGA apologist garbage again.
The secretary of defense is the one who decides what’s classified as he is the head of the DoD.
With that being said I think it is kind of expected that the secretary of defense is not the point of weakness.
This is such a BS.
I actually feel like this wasn’t an accident and he invited him on purpose to expose this scandal as his position is a National Security Advisor and what they are doing is outrageous from security standpoint.
All media concentrated on that a journalist was present in the chat, when the real issue is them using Signal on personal phones to communicate sensitive information.
Totally relatable, I often create group chats about conducting air strikes on foreign countries for me and my colleagues, it’s just so easy and efficient. I once almost invited someone from our HOA to it, but I luckily spotted her immediately and removed her again. No worries.
I’m not the first guy who fell in love with a girl he met in a restaurant…
who then turned out to be the daughter of a kidnapped scientist…
only to lose her to her childhood lover…
who she’d last seen on a deserted island…
and who turned out, 15 years later, to be the leader of the French underground.That sounds like some Kojima level shit right there. Just needs a giant mech threatening a nuclear strike.
“Skeet Surfing” is my jam.
One of Mel Tormé’s best songs.
We’ve all screwed up on a text message.
We haven’t all chosen to use an insecure app for sensitive military operations to avoid foia requests to hide future treason charges and then screwed up a text message.
Signal is fine
Users are the weakest link
Just to clarify, signal is open source and it’s code has been vetted by cryptography experts. The signal protocol is secure, it’s the user who screwed up.
Now that doesn’t excuse the illegal action of using the app to avoid foia requests, but the app and it’s protocol were not the failing here.
My understanding is that it auto deletes after a short set time. I’m not saying signal is a failure of an app for personal use, I’m saying choosing it for this purpose is a fail.
You can set it up to auto delete, but that’s not the default. Either way agreed, it’s a major failing in this purpose.