• Etterra@discuss.online
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    12 hours ago

    But no little tiny tusks? No trunk? Lame. Is it so wrong to want a tiny mammoth I can hold in one hand?

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      10 hours ago

      You want a tiny mammoth, I want an aquarium sized whale… Where’s the line? How long until there’s a game show of duck sized horses or horse sized duck?

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    21 hours ago

    The 15ft tall 8,000 pound mouse was last seen rampaging in the downtown area. OK that’s what I wanted the article to say.

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    1 day ago

    This was wise. They had to create the woolly mice so that when they create the woolly mammoths, they can woolly control them.

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    1 day ago

    I am skeptical of all articles with “scientists” in the title… but those mice are really cute. 😙

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    Why? How about focusing on preventing more extinctions instead of some Jurassic Park bullshit.

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      22 hours ago

      We already know how to prevent more extinctions. Better environmental laws, more green spaces, better conservation efforts, less suburban sprawl, etc. You know, things that will never happen.

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    This means they’re gonna make wooly elephants and try to make us call them woolly mammoths.

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    Can I be nit-picky here for a second?

    If you’re genetically modifying an elephant for cold tolerance and fur growth, you’re not “bring a mammoth back from extinction”, you’re creating a furry elephant. It may look somewhat like a mammoth, but genetically it’s not a mammoth at all.

    It’s like saying you can genetically modify a homo-sapien to have a pronounced brow ridge and a hairier back and say that you’ve brought the neandertal back from extinction. No you haven’t, you’ve just designed a human who looks different.

    • go $fsck yourself@lemmy.world
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      Well, the goal isn’t to just create woolly mammoth-lile creatures by copying characteristics. The goal is to recreate the genome from what genome data we have into a living creature.

      It’s not like they are trying to create a sweded version, but take a creature that is already close and change the genes to match.

      At least, that’s how I understood it based on the article.

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      2 days ago

      And next you’ll say that genetically-modified ears aren’t enough to make catgirls real either 😩

      Can we let this one go? Not for science, not for accuracy, but for the prospect of having catgirls in our lifetimes, at least?

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      I already have the hairy back, can I say I am half neanderthalensis? Better than homo sapiens seeing how things are going…

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      And the most annoying part is that this is incredibly fcking useless. Wooly mammoths went extinct for a reason. Large animals are becoming less and less evolutionary preferred. Wooly mammoths are adjusted for the cold while our globe is warming.

      Can we just use our fcking resources for things that matter???

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        Can we just use our fcking resources for things that matter???

        Yeah, bring back the passenger pigeon! We need more pigeons! Do something that’ll make a difference already!

        Also, can we get some dodos up in here? Where all my dumb birds at?

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            Yeah, as I recall they’re actually really important to the ecology of Madagascar. A native species of tree simply doesn’t grow without them. And without those trees, well you can imagine that affects a lot of things.

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        Nobody cares about wooly mammoths. This is a test of gene editing techniques that can eradicate genetic diseases.

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        You’re using the same logic my dad uses to rail against going to Mars. He says there is no worthwhile reason to go there when more pressing matters on earth are in abundance.

        Just like you, he is missing the forest for the trees, angrily ignorant to the fact that the knowledge you gained from trying to achieve a seemingly worthless achievement is the actual value, not in the achievement itself.

        The achievement is just a convenient goal to make the science more exciting to the general public so as to garner more financial support from both private and government sources. Each of the steps needed to gain that achievement may not have gained as much funding as they do now if they were presented separately from that final goal.

        • scholar@lemmy.world
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          When your house is on fire you don’t start looking for package holidays to Pompeii, no matter how much you might learn. We have all the knowledge we need to avert the climate crisis, we just need action and resources dedicated to fixing it.

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            13 hours ago

            You’ll find that we have a lot of people on this planet, we can multitask. We can research genetic engineering, and green energy, and medical technology, and recycling processes, as well as things that don’t advance those immediate goals, like microprocessors, meta materials, superconductors, astrophysics, geology, mathematics, etc.

            When your house will be burning for the next few hundred years and you still have to live in it because even on fire it’s the best house around, maybe just get on with your life and do something productive? Perhaps some of us can move out eventually, but it would take a lot of research in a lot of different fields, probably even genetics…

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              Something productive like finding a fire extinguisher, or productive like recreating fluffy elephants into an ecosystem that no longer exists?

          • SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            What do you want the geneticists to do? They are educated in their domain, you can’t just plop them into another field

            The applications of their work is likely plenty in medicine and bioengineering

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              I want them to stop pretending that resurrecting a cold adapted species into an ecosystem that is rapidly melting will do anything productive.

              If they want to be helpful they can work out how to engineer humans that can survive 40 degree heat and breathe co2.

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                If they want to be helpful they can work out how to engineer humans that can survive 40 degree heat and breathe co2.

                That’s what they’re fucking doing by bringing back the mammoth…

                They’ll run when they’re ready, but right now they’re learning to crawl. Or to put it differently, let them cook.

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                  I was being sarcastic, I don’t want bio-engineered humans adapted for extreme heat, I want us to not let our planet get to that point in the first place.

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        Not really, we humans killed most big land animals that we found as we expanded our territory, back when we were hunters. This happened in big “islands” like Australia and Madagascar, as well as all the small islands. There, large animals had lived in equilibrium for centuries, and their extinction matches some short time after humans arrived. An exception are the galapago islands, as they were discovered in the 19th century.

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          And to recreate the species they’d need hundreds of them from different genetic material. Which means they’ll likely create a single one that will eventually die and costed billions of dollars.

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          Besides the fact that the hunting hypothesis is that; a hypothesis, there’s a lot of other factors as to why it isn’t a good idea. Mainly, ohh idk… The fact that they have had no place in nature in over tens of thousands of years? Even if we managed to create an artificial habitat and role in an ecosystem for them, they would be very vulnerable due to megafauna’s increased minimum land requirements because of their size and in danger constantly due to climate change.

  • quoll@lemmy.sdf.org
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    mouse sized woolly mammoth would be pretty fucking cool.

    imagine the sound when he toots his little trunk.

    could store him in the fridge.