• John Richard@lemmy.world
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      There are tons of Democrats they could have ran to generate more momentum than Biden. Heck, Michelle Obama could have ran. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez would bring out more voters than Biden. Bernie Sanders obviously another great pick.

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        Michelle Obama is (shouldn’t be, but is) a polarizing figure, especially on the right because she’s both female and black. Putting her as the Dem nominee would likely galvanize and energize the GOP base because heaven forbid a black woman be in the White House.

        AOC isn’t old enough yet, and she is considered by many outside of her district as too extreme.

        One of the main issues (and IMO, one of the dumbest issues) is age. One of the main complaints from voters is that both Trump and Biden are too old. Bernie Sanders is older than both and has already had multiple runs that didn’t pan out. Sanders would just be considered more of the same if he tried running a third time.

        The next pick down would probably be someone like Elizabeth Warren, and Trump would be cramming the “pocohontas” thing down everybody’s throats from day one. There’s also the fact that she’s in her 70s herself, giving more support for the belief that all Dems have are a bunch of out-of-touch retirees during a time when the voting base wants younger people with newer ideas and values.

        I’ve said from day one that Biden is going to be looked upon as this generation’s Jimmy Carter: A man who actually achieved a lot but was always looked upon as the “lame duck” president after Nixon/Ford that never got the credit for his accomplishments that he deserves. And that’s pretty much exactly what happened.

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          You don’t understand why Trump is so popular to the right. The more pissed off and the more the right talk about and attack someone and think with their emotions, the more public attention they get which actually helps that candidate. The Democrats absolutely should have picked a black woman as their candidate. The Republicans wouldn’t be able to resist saying the most vile things constantly and that would equate to non-stop media coverage that actually benefits the Democrats. AOC will be 35 during the election and legal scholars have determined that the age you will be at the time of the election is what matters, not how old you are leading up to the election. She would be a great choice and also get non-stop media coverage as a result of the Republicans hate for her.

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            You don’t understand why Trump is so popular to the right.

            Not the person you’re responding to but I certainly don’t understand their love for him, but that’s probably because I’m not a right wing shill that’s in love with Trump and wants him to win like your posts strongly suggest that you are.

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              So my posts saying that AOC, Michelle Obama & Bernies Sanders would have been great candidates over Biden somehow tells you that I support Trump? What planet are you living on?

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                Yep because as it turns out none of those people are running for president, won’t be running for president, and in 2016 there was a whole Russian effort to push “alternative candidates” to Hillary Clinton just like you’re doing.

                You’re all about sowing discord and writing “Biden bad” in various ways across various threads, and you strike me as a concern troll trolling for Trump.

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                  Geezus… Why is it that Democrats keep saying, “by advocating for better policies and more progressive ideas you’re a Trump supporter!”

                  Seriously, are you trying to suggest that Trump is more liberal than Biden or something?

                  Or are you really just that scared that if everyone you come across doesn’t praise Biden like he is the second coming of Pastrami that he’ll lose? If you’re that scared then write up Biden and tell him he hasn’t done a good enough job yet then cause you are so stressed that you feel the need to make everyone praise him else you’re afraid he’ll lose.

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                    Geezus… Why is it that Democrats keep saying, “by advocating for better policies and more progressive ideas you’re a Trump supporter!”

                    That’s not even what you’re advocating for, you’re advocating for fantasy land like candidate switches months before the election.

                    But leave it to you, a person, place, or thing that is definitely not a concern troll, bot, or plant to wait a day and come back with an entirely new argument about why you’re totally not a shill.

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        AOC isn’t even old enough to run. I am thinking you haven’t thought through your argument as thoroughly as you think you have.

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          The Constitution doesn’t say anything about an age required to run for President, it just says that they have to be at least 35 to be President. She’ll be 35 this October, well before the election.

          Besides, I think you’ll find that under-35s can only be barred from the presidency if Congress passes a law because apparently the Constitution doesn’t matter at all. Or something to that effect anyway, I find it hard to play devil’s advocate for that dogshit opinion from the SCOTUS.

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            Yeah, fair enough. Especially the SC/Constitution-doesn’t-matter-anymore thing. Geez. What a mess we’re in.

            Personally, I’d love to see a future Buttigiege/AOC ticket, but I’m not sure how well that would work in a general election. Who knows in 4 years, though?

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              What a mess we’re in.

              Preach, sib.

              Who knows in 4 years, though?

              Guess we’ll see if we make it to next year first, and go from there! I’ll vote for that ticket, though, if I get the chance.