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      Why wouldn’t we?

      They don’t even need to. Retirement age exists because we acknowledge that passed some point people are to old to function properly on the job. So what the fuck are they doing in politics?

      When offered 2 bad choices i’ll stick with the lesser evil though, which is the one not literally quoting Hitler and campaign promising a dictatorship.

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        Retirement age exists because we acknowledge that passed some point people are to old to function properly on the job.

        That is…not correct. Retirement age exists because at one time it was expected that people would generally achieve a certain level of wealth and live out the rest of their days doing what they wanted with that wealth and time. Plenty of people >65 are fully capable of certain types of work.

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          Retirement age exists because at one time it was expected that people would generally achieve a certain level of wealth and live out the rest of their days doing what they wanted with that wealth and time.

          A retirement age exists because it was fought for by the labor movement, and it was set during the creation of Social Security in the US during the New Deal. It was also set at the average age of death IIRC, and because a large part of the homeless problem during the Great Depression was seniors who had not saved enough money to support themselves without a job’s income and were largely unable to obtain new work.

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          Because genocide plus fascism is worse than genocide alone. Is this even a real question or are you just trolling?

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          The alternative is the same genocide, plus even more of it in more places, most likely. Including right here on American soil.

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            If a dog pisses on the floor and you give them a treat they are gonna think it’s ok to piss on the floor.

            Biden could come out and say I could kill 30k Palestinians and my supporters will say the other guy is more dangerous…

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              These aren’t dogs, they’re people with political power. You’d have to be a moron to think a slap on the wrist is worth the actual collapse of democracy.

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                  “Hurr durr, If I’m going to die, it doesn’t matter if my options are ‘slow torture’ or ‘painless drug cocktail’, they’re literally the same”

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          Rebuilding the US into a dictatorship seems like something, that should be avoided. But then I am not a US citizen.

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              Yeah so why not just hop in bed with actual dictatorship?

              Just look at Russia; it’s going so well for them! No genocides at all and it solved all of their problems with capitalism!

              And they have shopping carts!!! Let’s be Russia!

              /s

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          Do you honestly believe that trump wouldn’t also support that genocide? Netanyahu is a longtime friend and supporter of trump’s.

          Sadly we are stuck with a “lesser of two evils” situation - and Biden, while supporting evil, is still less evil (by far) than trump.

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            What Trump might do is irrelevant, instead of focusing on what ifs, people should be focusing on right now.

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          Lesser evil is still evil, it really is a testament to how bad things have gotten.

          Neither option cares or would actually change much about the atrocities.

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      Yes.

      When you vote for someone you are also voting for the advisors and their other support staff. I much prefer Bidens support staff.

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        Trump is far too narcissistic to listen to anyone on his support staff tho. I’m sure they’re constantly trying to reign him in. But somehow he remains inexplicably popular.

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          Oh no, that’s worse than anything Trump has done, you’ve convinced me, switching sides now.

          Sorry your guy isn’t doing anything to help sales, tough gig.

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                  You are effectively voting for Trump or Biden - whichever candidate you dislike more. By choosing not to vote for one of the major parties you ethically own the awful consequences of whoever is elected.

                  America has a horrible electoral system and it will almost certainly have a horrible choice in the general election - it fucking sucks. But if Trump is elected and women die because abortion is made nationally illegal or, if you’re conservative, I don’t know… either way, that shit is on you if you choose not to participate.

                  Yeah, it sucks, but voting is your obligation.

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                    It sucks because voters keep allowing it to suck. The blame, if Trump is reelected, lies solely on voters not demanding their party primary Biden. Instead of holding him accountable they kept punching at the people trying to hold him accountable. Anyone that opposed the approved echo chamber rhetoric was quickly labeled Russian, bot, paid by Putin, etc.

                    I am not effectively voting for either, red fascism or blue fascism is still fascism.