• AdmiralShat@programming.dev
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    8 months ago

    unlawfully hacking a Nintendo Switch console

    What? It’s my hardware, Apple lost his battle with jailbreaking years ago, Nintendo just shit out an already lost argument.

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      This is not really the same thing.

      The Apple lawsuit was about running unsigned code on the iPhone, which courts deemed that Apple couldn’t use copyright as a tool to enforce its walled garden.

      Nintendo isn’t arguing about people modifying their switch to run homebrew. They’re arguing that to use Yuzu you need to provide it with a copy of the decryption keys and system firmware which must be either extracted from a Switch or distributed illegally.

      This is a much stronger case in Nintendo’s favor, than the Apple jailbreak one. Although, I suspect the Yuzu dev has a better case as it’s already legal to back up discs and ROMs as long as you dont distribute them and they’re not responsible for other people’s actions if they choose to break copyright

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        IIRC Sony lost their lawsuit which was almost identical to Nintendo’s. I’m guessing they are hoping for a far friendlier conservative court.

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            No, it’s not.

            The case Sony lost also relied on the end user having a blob of Sony’s code. A user using their own key and a blob of Nintendo’s firmware, which is the official stance of Yuzu on the correct way to do so, is exactly the same thing. There’s nothing new to be litigated. Every part of Yuzu is very clearly legal.

            The fact that it was used to play a game before official release straight up cannot possibly be relevant. It’s a distraction. The project isn’t, and isn’t capable of being, responsible for anything but its own code.

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                By existing. (Yes, that’s the only argument they made. There is no assertion that anyone associated with Yuzu “cracked” (not necessary) or actively distributed TOTK.)

                It’s a distraction. It’s literally impossible for it to be relevant unless the yuzu project page hosted TOTK files.

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        As long as they don’t distribute copyrighted material, they should be good. Hopefully a judge throws this out due to no evidence of actual copyright violation.

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      Yeah. That bit stood out to me as well. I posted in the other cross-post that I wonder if that means Nintendo’s going to try to go after stuff like Atmosphere and Hekate etc next.

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        The hacking discords were just hit with another wave of bans across the board. Sure, a lot of them were sharing piracy links, but I know of several that clearly weren’t and still got nuked. Nintendo is going hard into repression, next step is probably going to be going after modchip sellers.

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      They probably know they’ll lose. But they can drag Yuzu creators through court and bleed them dry in the process.

      We should ban the practice of tying software to hardware, and the creation of arbitrary restrictions for such practices.

      In my opinion there are a few legitimate cases for piracy and platform exclusives is one of them. And these pirates prove it’s completely possible for Nintendo to make it available for sale on other platforms. If Nintendo doesn’t make it available for sale, it should be a free-for-all. I don’t want to buy a Switch. I don’t want to buy an Xbox or a PS5. Not to mention paying the 30% Nintendo tax for the privilege of creating a game that actually runs on it. And I don’t want to feed any of these megacorporations my telemetry. Fuck 'em.