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    9 days ago

    It would be cool if no one went. Just him, Musk, and some right wing drifters on empty streets.

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            8 days ago

            Military personnel sell their morals to the highest bidder. They listen to the orders of their higher ups and hide behind the narrative that: “I’m just following orders” / “I don’t make the rules”.

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              8 days ago

              As much crap is is going on in the world right now, the US military still has some scruples. They don’t just blindly follow Trump’s orders. And especially wouldn’t just fire into their countrymen. Trump hasn’t managed to take over every institution yet. Especially the military.

              Service members know how to complain and think for themselves. And if something doesn’t seem right, they will clarify the heck out of it and push back. It’s not the Russian military

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                8 days ago

                Yet they will gladly shoot up farmers and whole villages in the middle east because their institution and higher ups say so as they continue to blindly believe the “we bring democracy” narrative.

                If you are military in the information age, you are willfully ignorant.

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                  8 days ago

                  That doesn’t really have much to do with domestic stuff. I mean, every military does fucked up stuff, but at the end of the day, they’re made of people and have their families. Even myself.

                  As a service member, I educated myself on tactics, philosophy, diplomacy, economics, culture, mental health, geography, and many other topics to understand how and why military force is used. I know it’s not for democracy à la Helldivers. It’s used to keep the trade going and to conduct politics through harder power.

                  You might be an isolationist and that’s fine. But don’t insult the intelligence of myself who dealt with all sorts of philosophical dilemma and educated herself and others around her

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                    8 days ago

                    I wouldn’t say isolationist as I believe communities supporting each other, trading with each other and collaborating is key to making this world liveable for all. I just don’t believe in foreign military operations doing anything accept asserting dominance and a show of power, and seeing as that was the sole reason “we” were in the middle east and all the meddling that the west has done both military and politically in the global south and the middle east is a blatant invasion of the sovereignty of other people.

                    Friends and family of mine have been / are in the military or military police, and I’ll gladly tell them the same. You can be intelligent and educated, but at the end of the day you rent out your morals and sovereignty to some authority other than yourself.

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              8 days ago

              Every so often you do get a few who are unwilling to run pwotover in tanks, or launch the nuclear missiles