They’ll sing praises of the “free market” all day, until it stops going their way.
In the United States you get sent to prison if you use the wrong slop machine
So we’ve gone from banning books to banning apps.
could face up to 20 years in jail, a million dollar fine, or both.
So I’d get less for stabbing someone.
And you wouldn’t believe how less it gave you for stealing millions from a pension fund.
US doing exactly what they accuse Communist China of doing exhibit 420
@HiddenLayer555 yeah… it’s exactly the same, isn’t it? We can’t even talk about it…
Just you wait…
A dying empire doing everything it can to delay the inevitable. We really are watching the beginning of the end of the US hegemony aren’t we?
Prof Richard Wolff has a great analysis of things: https://youtu.be/9u4A0D_Wc9c
As usual. Love that guy.
The theory that the builders of Empire were the ones that understood it, and the inheritors of Empire are true believers in the false justification the builders gave and thus defeat itself when given the reigns is coming more and more true.
oh, these third world dictatorships with no consideration for individual freedoms and human rights…
no, wait.
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> be european > deepseek gets banned > "hardfork" it to a european hosted gitlab instance > see openai and xai tears flowing againYeah jail everyone doing piracy too (they also might do that lmao) im reporting every republican I know using an illegal firestick,ill make california blue
Guess you’ll have to jail all the chuds and libs who typed “Tienanmen Square Massacre” so they could post the screenshot on Reddit as some kind of gotcha on China.
HELL YEAH I’M GONNA BREAK THE LAW
Didn’t I just read an article about Apple wanting to use it. It’s open source it can be forked and be American tomorrow. No matter how much Openai crys. This just shows the true lack of any knowledge on the subject. I’m not a fan of the Chinese government as much of the next guy. But the information is out there.
Perplexity already runs a US copy of it.
Exactly
Apple wants to use it in China
I can’t confirm if this is correct or not but another example is you can use deepseek in aws bedrock right now. So it’s makes the same point.
Honest Questions Can a model be open source? Dont we need the data it was trained on to truly be able to reproduce, understand and modify it?
No a model is a model now if you are talking a chat bot or ai app yeah you need the data and that data changes all the time but if I have the model I can supply my own and get simalr results to their model if the data I need is the same. The code is right here https://github.com/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V3?tab=readme-ov-file I can get the models from https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V3-Base and train them further and redistub that model legally. Per
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Okay let’s talk terminology
I meant the useable application as a for example chat bot.
The model itself is useful as far as it enables me to understand the underlying logic of the whole thing right? But without the data and I guess a training period with it I can’t use it if I understood it correctly.
If I am right with the above this wouldnt make it useful as in I can reproduce it as a functioning application and I wouldn’t call that opensourve in my understanding of the word.
I don’t know much as i ain’t knowledgeable in ML and LLM, but i downloaded deepseek R1 7B model (which probably is the weights and architecture) from huggingface and it worked with no “data”. So i can say it’s reproducible. Now does that make it open source?
Lmao.
The theory that the builders of Empire were the ones that understood it, and the inheritors of Empire are true believers in the false justification the builders gave and thus defeat itself when given the reigns is coming more and more true.
they want to jail people who use Deepseek
but not people who use Tiktok or Xiaohongshu
XHS has been out for weeks longer than Deepseek yet no actionthis means that Deepseek is way more important and Sam Altman or someone else has tremendous power over the US government compared to facebook/google executives?
Well OpenAi and the companies that are set up to support them like Nvidia
You’re supposed to fine companies, not jail people wtf
Ima download it even harder now
