Summary

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez criticized Elon Musk after he made a gesture during Trump’s inauguration resembling a Nazi salute.

Musk and his allies dismissed the comparison, calling such accusations exaggerated.

Ocasio-Cortez, however, called the gesture unacceptable, emphasizing America’s history of opposing Nazis and the Confederacy.

She also condemned the Anti-Defamation League for defending Musk, accusing it of losing credibility.

Her comments sparked broader debate on symbols, gestures, and their implications amid Trump’s return to office.

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    We used to kill Nazis.

    Now we cheer them, shrug them off, or make excuses for them.

    This nation is pathetic.

    I wonder how many conservative’s ancestors fought the Nazis and now they’re voting for Nazis.

    Hey 2A enthusiasts. This is the moment you’ve been saying you need your guns for your entire pathetic lives. Where you at?

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      Assuming you’re American, you do understand the irony of America taking in the most nazi elite and scientists for their own personal projects right? Also if you read mein kampf you’ll find it fascinating how much he was inspired by American legalised racism and ethnic cleanings. America is a nation built like how Israel was, through ideological and legalized genocide, racism, fascism and racism. I’m starting to comprehend how the soviet did the real nazi killing and suffered the real consequences of the Nazis unlike America.

    • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 ℹ️@yiffit.net
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      Hey 2A enthusiasts. This is the moment you’ve been saying you need your guns for your entire pathetic lives. Where you at?

      They’re apparently calling for gun control in the threads discussing LGBTQ+ people arming themselves.

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      That moment for 2A enthusaists came when Alabama banned abortion (before Roe v. Wade was overturned) and when Trump was putting children in cages. They didn’t then… they were the Nazis all along. The same people who just wanted to be the Brownshirts, but with their own personal firearms and not something issued to them.

      We’re seeing a similiar bullshit in Israel with West Bank illegal ‘settlers’ carrying M4 pattern rifles with them to the ‘homes’.

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    The elections after 2050…

    Mr (reuse last name of current or past presidents) was only raping the teens (plural) for five minutes at a time so deserves recognition for that is for winning our elections this year twice! 100% of electoral votes and a huge 5% of all Americans voted in Alabama so he got 67% of the vote plus or minus 350%

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    a gesture (…) resembling a Nazi salute

    Fuck off with that shitlib overcautiousness, HuffPo! The only way it could have been any more obviously a Nazi salute would have been if he had screamed “sieg heil!” while doing it!

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    Fucking preach.

    I really hope AOC considers a 2028 run for President.

    Edit: please fuck off about the uncertainty of 2028 elections, I’m excruciatingly aware, your reminders are not helpful.

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      It’s hilarious that you think you’re getting another election before Vance dies of old age. I hope you’re right of course but I’m pretty sure your future “elections” will be performative. You’re going to have to take that right back.

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        Part of fighting for it involves planning in case the fight is successful, and that planning includes picking candidates, so my original comment stands.

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    Do we though? Do we really, truly, hate Nazis? The evidence so far is not that conclusive.

    I hate Nazis, but I don’t think the country as a whole hates Nazis.

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      Well, you certainly used to, judging by the efforts and sacrifices 80 years ago, but there’s certainly a lot of evidence to indicate a lot of Americans of today think you were on the wrong side back then.

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        You may want to reread some history, there were plenty of Nazi sympathizers and collaborators (read: nazis) in the US back then too.

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          Oh I’m well aware, but push came to show and the better minds prevailed, back then, and as a result, so did the country.

          I’m not convinced the outcome would’ve been the same today.

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    Behold the one prominent US politician with any principles.

    And for that she will never be allowed near any real power…

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      It’s one of the reasons reactionaries hate her so much.

      And also that she’s a woman of color who didn’t stay “in her place.”

      And it’s so annoying to hear liberals parrot the same shit because the conglomerates who own liberal media don’t want to change the status quo.

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      There’s a few more, but she’s the most charismatic. It’s a shame too, they tend to win more than their moderate counterparts during midterm races.

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    Ya ya ya, keep arguing on the internet/news until your country becomes one of the shittiest in world under Trump. Do something about it irl.

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      Yup. Twice in a row. Exactly as the Nazis did it.

      Stand to attention facing the crowd. Hand to chest, then full extension. Turn around to face the Fuhrer, or if he isn’t there, the Nazi flag. Then stand to attention and sieg heil again.

      He did it. It’s not debatable. Don’t engage in debate with bad actors attempting to rewrite this history. The richest man in the world, who will act in an official capacity in the White House, is openly a Nazi. Because you are a Nazi if you perform a Nazi salute.

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      Yeah all these media sources keep saying things like “a day after Musk used an arm gesture, twice, that resembled the Roman salute adopted by the Nazis.”

      It’s blatantly obvious that they’re afraid of getting sued. Kind of like instead of saying someone lied, they’ll soften it up to say they made a statement that some fact checkers may disagree with.

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        I remember Robert Evans from BTB saying that when he worked in journalism, ANY story on a rich person was automatically followed up on by a lawsuit from the person in question, so they’d have legal on a retainer ready to respond.

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    I love AOC but I sure hope she has a really good security team. Most of us hate Nazis, but a whole lot of Republicans are actually Nazis and they hate and despise her.

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      Same. Nazi killing practically runs in the family at this point.

      Not even gonna bother with a ‘brown shirts will be shot’ sign.

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    If she’s the only one in office that’s willing to say anything about this, we’re in a lot more trouble than we thought.

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      You think the numbers are that low? I’d say tops only 33% of the US still hates nazis. The remainder are split between loving them or being indifferent

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        i never realized that in the final battle between the forces of good, evil, and indifference that the indifferent would be by far the largest and most dangerous faction

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          Really? Because it always has been. Or did you forget the classic quote “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”

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          I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action”; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a “more convenient season.”

          Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.

          -Martin Luther King Jr

          He got it

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            i guess the ancestors tried to tell us about the banality of evil, how badethings happen when good men do nothing, and that the path to hell is paved with good intentions