On Monday, Taylor Lorenz posted a telling story about how Meta has been suppressing access to LGBTQ content across its platforms, labeling it as “sensitive content” or “sexually explicit.” Posts wi…
Agreed but we invented other forms of communication for a reason. [edit] All I’m saying is - don’t roll over and let them win by default. You don’t have to use corpo social media in good faith. Break rules and fight back.
…and they will immediately delete all your posts and ban you. It’s an authoritarian surveillance state, remember? It’s way easier to “disappear” your voice and opinion from their website than it is to remove you from reality. They have literally all the control in that space, the technology is built against you from the ground up. There’s nothing sneaky you can do that they don’t already immediately see and can shut down. They automated bots roving looking for shit like that to take down.
How is that helping again? To be immediately silenced and others never see a word you had to say? How is that helping?
In the real world they still have to black bag you and throw you into an unmarked van to disappear you, something other people will see. Facebook makes it so that the unmarked van and black bag are never seen by others.
It’s like fighting with a moderator. It ain’t a democracy and whatever choice they make is “law,” even if we are users disagree and think what they did silly. Too bad, thems the breaks. They have all the power in that situation and we don’t. Zuckerberg literally employs mountains of people just to shut up voices like yours before they get a foothold. In my view, it’s more than a waste of time, it’s literally handing an enemy resources (data) while cosplaying being helpful.
Doing dumb shit like altering your language to use words like “unalive” to get around arbitrary filters is fuck stupid too and hurts language for the sake of people like Zuckerberg. You’re not changing language to fight them, no your changing language for them instead of dumping their fucking services and using ones that don’t do stupid shit like ban the word “suicide.” Language evolves naturally, but this evolution is in direct response to censorship and it’s a bad deal.
I didn’t say you wouldn’t be at a massive disadvantage but they didn’t have functional moderation before and they’re not going to pay for it now. What’s being suggested as an alternative is flat out giving up.
What’s being suggested as an alternative is flat out giving up.
No it’s not, it’s simply not spending our time on a private companies property. Literally the Civil Rights era was bolstered by massive success of boycotts. It wasn’t giving up, it was hitting them in the pocketbook and it worked.
But you can make any excuses for yourself that you need to keep sucking down that corporate slop.
I don’t know how to reiterate that you can still talk to people in other places like Facebook, the fact that you treat it like it’s the only way to communicate with people says a lot about you and how you view the internet. It’s naive, imho.
What if people like you had convinced Martin Luther King Jr. that the Montgomery Bus Boycott was “giving up” because they “weren’t using the buses.”
On 5 December, 90 percent of Montgomery’s black citizens stayed off the buses. That afternoon, the city’s ministers and leaders met to discuss the possibility of extending the boycott into a long-term campaign. During this meeting the MIA was formed, and King was elected president. Parks recalled: “The advantage of having Dr. King as president was that he was so new to Montgomery and to civil rights work that he hadn’t been there long enough to make any strong friends or enemies”
Finally, and most importantly, you talk about breaking rules, but you haven’t even given one example of how you can do that effectively to help people. I might believe you if you were coming correct with examples, but you aren’t so I can only assume this is some foolhardy desire to do good but you have no fucking clue how. The how is the hard part, buddy, and it doesn’t come from giving in to corporate slop and giving them the money they need to keep fucking you over.
Okay. I’ll leave those patient support groups because you told me to cut contact with people using corpo media. You might not be interested in boring reasons people do what they do but that’s why common people don’t believe in honesty when you tell them you have their best interest at heart. This suggests that you only care about what’s good for people superficially and people can smell that a mile away, hence current popularity of liberal left.
Unlike yourself, I cultivated relationships with those kind of people outside Facebook, got their phone numbers, and am able to be part of a support network for them without needing to use Facebook.
Real life exists dude. Facebook isn’t the only place to talk to people.
Agreed but we invented other forms of communication for a reason. [edit] All I’m saying is - don’t roll over and let them win by default. You don’t have to use corpo social media in good faith. Break rules and fight back.
…and they will immediately delete all your posts and ban you. It’s an authoritarian surveillance state, remember? It’s way easier to “disappear” your voice and opinion from their website than it is to remove you from reality. They have literally all the control in that space, the technology is built against you from the ground up. There’s nothing sneaky you can do that they don’t already immediately see and can shut down. They automated bots roving looking for shit like that to take down.
How is that helping again? To be immediately silenced and others never see a word you had to say? How is that helping?
In the real world they still have to black bag you and throw you into an unmarked van to disappear you, something other people will see. Facebook makes it so that the unmarked van and black bag are never seen by others.
It’s like fighting with a moderator. It ain’t a democracy and whatever choice they make is “law,” even if we are users disagree and think what they did silly. Too bad, thems the breaks. They have all the power in that situation and we don’t. Zuckerberg literally employs mountains of people just to shut up voices like yours before they get a foothold. In my view, it’s more than a waste of time, it’s literally handing an enemy resources (data) while cosplaying being helpful.
Doing dumb shit like altering your language to use words like “unalive” to get around arbitrary filters is fuck stupid too and hurts language for the sake of people like Zuckerberg. You’re not changing language to fight them, no your changing language for them instead of dumping their fucking services and using ones that don’t do stupid shit like ban the word “suicide.” Language evolves naturally, but this evolution is in direct response to censorship and it’s a bad deal.
I didn’t say you wouldn’t be at a massive disadvantage but they didn’t have functional moderation before and they’re not going to pay for it now. What’s being suggested as an alternative is flat out giving up.
No it’s not, it’s simply not spending our time on a private companies property. Literally the Civil Rights era was bolstered by massive success of boycotts. It wasn’t giving up, it was hitting them in the pocketbook and it worked.
But you can make any excuses for yourself that you need to keep sucking down that corporate slop.
I don’t know how to reiterate that you can still talk to people in other places like Facebook, the fact that you treat it like it’s the only way to communicate with people says a lot about you and how you view the internet. It’s naive, imho.
What if people like you had convinced Martin Luther King Jr. that the Montgomery Bus Boycott was “giving up” because they “weren’t using the buses.”
https://kinginstitute.stanford.edu/montgomery-bus-boycott
Finally, and most importantly, you talk about breaking rules, but you haven’t even given one example of how you can do that effectively to help people. I might believe you if you were coming correct with examples, but you aren’t so I can only assume this is some foolhardy desire to do good but you have no fucking clue how. The how is the hard part, buddy, and it doesn’t come from giving in to corporate slop and giving them the money they need to keep fucking you over.
Okay. I’ll leave those patient support groups because you told me to cut contact with people using corpo media. You might not be interested in boring reasons people do what they do but that’s why common people don’t believe in honesty when you tell them you have their best interest at heart. This suggests that you only care about what’s good for people superficially and people can smell that a mile away, hence current popularity of liberal left.
Unlike yourself, I cultivated relationships with those kind of people outside Facebook, got their phone numbers, and am able to be part of a support network for them without needing to use Facebook.
but keep making excuses for yourself.