• BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.worldOP
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    2 days ago

    I already have a relationship with the FBI because I give them information on Nazis. We get along well. They won’t care.

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      2 days ago

      When you say Nazis, you mean actual nazi nazi, or anyone who doesn’t politically agree with Lemmy.worlds world view? Genuine question, like for Palestine for example Edit: nvm you answered it later

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        When you say “When you say Nazis, you mean actual nazi nazi, or anyone who doesn’t politically agree with Lemmy.worlds world view? Genuine question, like for Palestine for example” do you mean to imply you care about the meaning of words or are you perhaps a little too sympathetic with Nazis?

        Just kidding.

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          I get you’re joking, tho personally, I find the whole nazi thing stupid personally (tho in Scotland you wouldn’t be calling people Nazis unless to be funny). Also as I learn more about history, I see as simplifying the fact Nazis werent the only bad guys. The only technical good guy with the allies was kind of America (at least initially) all the European ally nations (specially, UK, France, Belgium and Netherlands) were all evil nations that did “nazi like things for longer and then more brutally” Bad enough, Britain had “operation legacy” to essentially burn or destory all colonial documentations of crimes. Are Nazis the bad guys because they uniquely awful and despicable? Or is because they killed white Europeans and wanted to create a new empire that opposed the hegemonic power of UK and France. The whole “we did it for the Jews” I don’t buy, the same Europe that persecuted them for years and had been banned or in ghettos in most nations. Do you really think they’d have such a war over a people they despise so much?

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            Nazis were always like “normal people” in my mind. You might say any single one was nice, loved their family and pets and neighbors, made funny jokes and beautiful art, they’d give you the shirt off their back, invite you to a BBQ, stubbed their toes in pain like us, etc. They just had these certain traits where when stressed, they felt relieved by populist, xenophobic, masculine/warlike rhetoric, which snowballed.

            With that I’m probably more lenient towards people being called Nazis because I’m not looking for a literal 1:1 match anyways.

            I agree that we’re simplifying that era, feels like we’re taking a snapshot of a continuous process. Nazis (or other groups from other eras) are like the extremes or model specimen of how we perceive the period. Nazis were green as fuck in a green era, America was emerald, UK was lime, Japan was chartreuse, it just blends out to a spectrum.

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          Dat fuckin title lmao

          Hello my name is Grand emperor centaur of Idaho for the dickless ku klux klan

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                Also he died of sepsis after he pulled one of his own teeth with pliers because he didn’t have a pot to piss in. Not that I’m making fun of people who are poor, but just wow.

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                  Nice colloquialism. My grandma used to say “hasn’t got a pot to piss in” all the time. A strong woman and a pretty good role model.

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                    I use a lot of old sayings actually. I think it means I’m old. He also didn’t have a window to throw it out of.

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          Holy shit dude, you’re doing god’s work. If you don’t mind me asking, what got you into/how did you start doing it? And do the FBI only care if there in these groups or are they also interested in people saying awful things online. Keep up the great work

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                He’s dishonorably discharged from the Marines. Last I saw him he had a Hitler mustache too, and he was apparently beating his wife who is not white.

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            When the Charlottesville Unite the Right riots happened, I just began to wonder if I could find the average Nazi on Facebook. Like not Bitchard Spencer or any of the prominent figures, but just average Joe Blow imperial Wizard types. I just began searching for more minor figures, and began linking them all together one by one, and began reporting all their Nazi posts to Facebook and getting their accounts nuked. I was SO good at it and they began to get really paranoid. One night on Ambien I decided to make an account and begin friending them, and little by little it took off. I’ve never had to participate in any Nazi shit, I just allude to “our beliefs” once in a while. Then I began collecting all their photos and putting them on r/beholdthemasterrace so they could be endlessly mocked. Even though they are VERY not social media literate and Facebook is about the maximum they can do (some of them did make it to VK because it’s much less censored but that’s it), one of them did find his picture on there and complained to the Reddit admins who banned me (lest you think Reddit doesn’t support Nazis, they sure do).

            Anyway I have a few journalism friends who do work in right wing extremism and I began just to give them information, and met more and more and began helping them with it. I got involved with antifa and we do this in a much more organized way now. We have outed a lot of them to their jobs. We got a Nazi dishonorably discharged from the military, and we catfished Enrique Tarrio into sending us a dick pic.

            Re the FBI: three of the White Lives Matter dingdongs were driving to random college campuses in their state and dropping Nazi flyers all over it in the middle of the night as well as defacing the postal office and other dumb shit, so my alt told the local cops who they were and they were arrested, and they connected me with a joint task force agent, and we talk a lot and I give him information when I have it. They are not an organized bunch by and large and most of their shit is really petty but I like having them show up to wherever they are doing their dumb three person protest and have a cop waiting for them. He doesn’t know my real name but everything I have given him has turned out to be true so we have a good relationship; I even found him a few January 6 rioters, including the wife of a deceased prominent Nazi who died in prison who brought his ashes to scatter some in the Capitol building. Pretty wild. I’ve been doing it for ten years next year.

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              I have alot of serious respect for you man, to take such an initiative with these awful people who think they can say whatever they want online saying some insane racist shit. I’ll definitely be following you’re account. I’m not american, so sometimes it freaks me out how out in the open Nazis can be, we have the EDL here but our racism is more hidden and systemic

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                Oh thanks very much. My alt has some EDL friends, they’re all these middle aged loser guys who are all on social assistance of some sort and think they look marvelous in suspenders, but they actually look like hardboiled beets on legs. They think my alt is a babe haha. None of these people have impressive lives that’s for sure. Best wishes to you.