Y’know like a real revolution to overthrow a tyrannical government with overwhelming numbers by far.

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    Things can’t get better as long as propagandists like those at Fox news are allowed to operate unchecked. No matter what happens, no matter how many people get hurt, they will continue to find a way to give credit to the conservatives and demonize the left. Even if they have to outright fabricate stories to do so.

    These people use “socialism” as a scary word to argue against anything that benifits poor people. And they send emails about how evil democrats are to anyone stupid enough to read them. They are a cancer.

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    Legal Eagle has a video that explains what kinds of things Trump can do without legal consequences.

    Seems to me, that if he wants to replicate the events of Tianamen Square on American soil, he can totally do that, and it’s entirely within his legal rights to do so.

    Also, check the comments of that video. Chilling stuff.

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      Before trump was president i always thought president of the US is kinda like being the king of the Netherlands. More like a symbol that has to decide on some things and talks to people. Learning that they can actually just do whatever they want and americans just shrug is kinda fucking insane and terrifying for all the sane people on this planet.

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        Seems like he is gradually sliding towards being a medieval king or a dictator. In England, that sort of thing was limited in 1215 and the rest of Europe followed in the next centuries. However, Mussolini showed that even in a democratic state it’s always possible to make history repeat itself.

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    A work stoppage would probably work better than a march, but as someone else mentioned we can’t even get most people to vote. So things will just continue to go downhill unless people suddenly wake up to what’s going on around them.

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    We can’t even get more progressives than moderates/centrists to the Democratic primaries so I’d be pretty surprised to see even half that show up for something radical.

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      100 million people even getting involved twice every four years (once for the primaries and once for the election) they could literally put anyone they wanted with any policy into the white house.

      Pretending voting fixes issues? My brother in Christ you guys couldn’t be bothered to vote! Trump lost ground in terms of absolute number of votes. Fewer people voted for him in 2024 than did in 2020.

      Like jfc imagine saying voting doesn’t fix things 2 days after an election where you forgot to vote.

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        My brother in Christ you guys couldn’t be bothered to vote!

        I think we need to discuss the serious chance that the Free Palestine message was designed to disrupt and demoralize the left.

        We already know that the LA Times non-endorse + WashPo non-endorse + Gannett (who owns hundreds of local papers) non-endorse was specifically designed to demoralize us in the days before the election.

        One Billionaires being scared of Trump making a non-endorse play? Okay I can believe that. Three that happened all within days of each other as a seemingly pre planned strategy??

        No. Just no. We have some major enemies working against us and specifically trying to demoralize us this year. And it worked.

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          So you guys don’t have free will or something? Papers don’t endorse a candidate so you don’t vote?

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            This is an election where people didn’t even know Biden wasn’t running anymore, as Google Trend searches of “Did Biden Drop Out of the Election” skyrocketed during the election.

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          I think we need to discuss the serious chance that the Free Palestine message was designed to disrupt and demoralize the left.

          No! Really?

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      Why?

      It’s almost like you have a major political party running disinformation against you that is hampering your enthusiasm across every known modern media platform or something.

      I wonder who could be hurting the enthusiasm of the left with blatant attacks like the prevention of Newspaper endorsements, fake AI stories and possible algorithmic control of memes.

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        Why? Because there aren’t as many leftist as lemmy would make you think.

        Considering the fact that it is part of Russias strategy to polarize American politics to extremes so we can’t get anything done, and I dont see any of the leftists opinions from lemmy irl. I think most of it is being pushed by foreign actors.

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          You are almost there but you are still slightly missing the point I’m trying to make.

          Considering the fact that it is part of Russias strategy to polarize American politics to extremes

          It is a specifically Russian strategy to demoralize the opposition through misinformation campaigns and the use of false flags.

          A false leftist promoting a (on the surface) seemingly leftist point of view designed to disrupt and demoralize is within the Russian playbook. Case in point: Russians promoting both Blue Lives Matters and Black Lives Matters simultaneously, while specifically advocating for violence and otherwise making the discussion worse.

          Now consider the messages that got out (and worked) in the last month of this election. Who created large arguments across Lemmy (pretending to be leftist) that Kamala is just as bad as Trumpon this issue?

          Well, maybe some legitimate leftists believed that. But 100% if I were a Russian operative I know what message I’d be meming.

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            More like claiming that democrats lost the election because they weren’t far enough left when the polls say it was because of inflation.

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              Sure, that’s also sounds like a good disruption strategy.

              The goal is to separate and disrupt us. And they will have fully paid specialists who strategize and are savvy on the latest arguments.

              Anything that gets Democrats to tear each other apart is the goal. So we need to be careful about the whispers on the internet, and be more careful about thinking about who those whispers serve.

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        There’s a Progressive Party in Oregon, supposedly one of the more progressive states in the US. They can’t win even local elections. They ran three people for two Portland city council spots and didn’t get a single vote between the three of them.

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    Everyone would need to pack their own meals and bring their own tents to sleep in, most modern armies top out at a million people, imagine trying to coordinate anything with 100 million people, Tokyo has 40 million people and is the biggest city in the world, it would be logistically impossible on so many different levels

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    Because it’s VERY EASY to get almost 33% of people in the US to do something TOGETHER!

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    Cool. How will you lead these people? How will you communicate with all of them? How do you get all of them to trust you?

    Well, you build up a network of trusted lieutenants who blitz the media with your message of unity. You organize your subordinates and their subordinates (and so on) until you have a network of trust with you at the top of it.

    Of course, you will have competition. Run media disinformation campaigns on your supporters and the supporters of your opponents to hamper your opponents’s followers enthusiasm while increasing the enthusiasm of your own followers.

    Spread vile lies if you have to. Contradict yourself repeatedly, say whatever you need to increase enthusiasm for your side while hampering enthusiasm for the other side.

    Then get roughly 75 million people to vote for you while torpedoing the other woman candidate’s support to 68 million and win the 2024 election.


    100 million isn’t needed, at least by my calculations. About 75 million is what you probably need. Perhaps in the past you might be led to believe that 80 million was needed (say in 2020), but as it turns out the hampering of the opponents support from 80 million down to 68 million is a better strategy.

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    What, now you disagree with both the Electoral College and the Popular Vote, so you want to have a revolution?

    You crack me up.

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    I’m not happy with the result either, but that’s what happens when people stay at home instead of voting.

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    So you’re mad about the vote and your conclusion is voting doesn’t matter?

    Oh boy, this is why we’ve got a long road ahead

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      This is so far from the top of the list of reasons your system is fucked you could cross the finish line without addressing it at all.