I was gonna title this “And here I sit so patiently waiting to find out what price you have to pay to get out of going through all these things twice” and then write “Stuck inside of America with the fascism blues again” here, but I’m not sure if that comes off like gloating and that’s honestly the last thing I want to do this morning.

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    Yes, you might find it stupid or illogical, but they (trump , elmo) are seen as smart and successful, and they lived under better circumstances in the last Trump term.

    That’s democracy, everyone has a say, whether their opinions or feelings are right or wrong. but instead of the democrats putting the work to meet these people they have chosen to belittle them. and that has cost them so far the Presidency and the Senate.

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      “they lived under better circumstances in the last Trump term”

      They lived under fucking Covid in the last Trump term, when everyone was confined to their homes while supply lines disintegrated and the cost of food more than doubled, while ashes from rampant forest fires rained down from a blood red sky.

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        That was only the end of it though. Through most of it, many aspects of the economy were better, for most people. He was just as complicit in why inflation, housing costs, etc. got so bad. However, do you think most people understand how the free money given, mostly under Biden, as a stimulus to the populace, had little effect on the inflation vs financial institutions drowning in oceans of free money, for 20 years? Do you think most people are even aware that was going on? Do you think most of them understand how private equity, and changes in its regulation, caused the housing cost crisis, and not supply being overwhelmed by the demand of immigrants?

        I talked to someone I used to do underwriting, for things like mortgages, a few months back. He bought the immigrants buying up all the housing line. He just refused to believe private equity, something he definitely understands, is responsible, regardless of the fact that even those private equity institutions’ data say they are at fault. It is much easier to say “housing unaffordable, close border” than to have to address the massive systemic changes that need to be made.

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      they lived under better circumstances in the last Trump term

      I was disinfecting my groceries, and Trump was confiscating my PPE to send it somewhere else. I was getting Covid checks, which was nice, but it wasn’t exactly the same as working. I couldn’t leave the house for a while. I couldn’t buy certain mechanical things without going on a 3-month wait list. I knew some people who died.

      They think they lived under better circumstances in the last Trump term, because the media and people like you spreading a certain type of mental landscape and inviting them to inhabit it. But that’s not actually what happened.

      instead of the democrats putting the work to meet these people they have chosen to belittle them

      If belittling the people could cost you support in America, Trump would be in prison right now.

      Now if you ask whether the media told people that Democrats were belittling them, now that’s a different story. That, to me, seems a lot more worth examining than it does to lecture the Democrats how important it is not to do some things they didn’t do, that the media said they did.

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        Lol! Most people get their information from social media. Most people interact with others on social media.

        Most Republicans have been called “racist, bigot, misogynist, shitty, worthless, non-human, “Nazis” who deserve to be cast out if not “removed permanently” from society!!!” on social media.

        For no other reason than they had a differing opinion than the hive-mind did.

        The media didn’t have to tell me that liberals were belittling me.

        Biden also called Trump supporters “garbage”. Clinton called us “deplorable”. And I have a funny suspicion that you don’t disagree. We have been dehumanized. I have to try my hardest to make it clear that I am, in fact, NOT a fucking Nazi before I post something that I know will be considered “Nazi speak”, just because it isn’t blind alegence to the Democratic candidate.

        So…yeah…you can’t act like this is something the media implanted into our minds.

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          If you aren’t further left than the Democratic Party, then you are in fact a Nazi.

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      Oh of course they think Trump and Musk are very smart. That doesn’t surprise me.

      I’m surprised that they think Trump and Musk give a fuck about egg prices.