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        I was honestly so surprised myself when I realized that the supposed most famous picture of the massacre didn’t show a single dead body. Just makes you think about how easily can falsehood be used for propaganda.

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          One of the first casualties of the whole protest was an unarmed PLA officer that was tied to a bus by the protestors and burnt alive. Then mocked and photographed. They never share that photo around though.

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            Westerners refuse to believe that about half the fatalities were PLA members because in their countries, the police would never be unarmed, never abandon their equipment, never hesitate to kill in retaliation.

            Westerners also don’t pity the murdered PLA officers because they view them the same as their own police: violent people that eagerly abuse their power.

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              I think that’s the most eye-opening thing about this “massacre”

              if this had happened in the US, the streets would have run with rivers of blood. It would’ve been utterly brutal. And the US would be the one rewriting history to try and pretend it never happened. It’s always projection.

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                Yeah so much western propaganda is essentially just accusing this or that country of being like the USA. I genuinely don’t understand why it’s so effective

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                  Because the other half of the propaganda is convincing people that the USA isn’t like the USA. No idea how that one works so well either thought.

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                    And they’ve been taught that history is over, there’s no alternative, which means other places must be exactly like the US. It’s inconceivable that other places could be run differently even while those places are thought of as other.

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              Word. Kent state? Armed National Guard goons in full battle rattle with bayonets fixed fired 7.62mm rifles point blank in to students. Tianemen? The majority of the PLA soldiers in the square didn’t have any weapons of any kind what so ever. They didn’t have batons. They didn’t have helmets. They were just wearing their uniforms and basically standing there. It was a show of force, certainly, but unlike anything I can think of in Western political history.

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              Imagine if BLM protestors had tied an unarmed, out of uniform, cop to a bus and burnt them alive what the libs would be screaming for. They would want outright slaughter.

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                In authoritarian America, citizens aren’t taught the history of the New York Draft Riots and anyone who googles 紐約徵兵暴動 gets disappeared by their secret police! 😱😱

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            Not true, they do … And they claim that it’s another instance of SeePeePee violence …

            Let me see if I can find the libbed up reddit thread where I saw it:

            Not as upvoted as I remember, the post is a Midjourney selfie from tank man.

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            i distinctly remember being ‘informed’ that “right after this photo, he was disappeared by the secret police and never seen or heard from again!

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            I remember being sat in my classroom as a primary school kid with my teacher showing us that photo on the newspaper days after the event and him telling us to think about what happened to that poor brave man.

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              what happened to that poor brave man.

              He probably went home to clean up, and later hooked up with some PLA Chad for a romantic dinner. When he climbed on the tank for a chat he was actually exchanging numbers.

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                My theory, based on the fact that he had a shopping bag, was that the dude in the tank was his son:

                “Hey, didn’t I tell you grandma and grandpa are coming over tonight?”

                “Uh, yeah dad, could we talk about this later?”

                “No. And do you remember how I specifically asked you to pick up some lettuce and tomatoes on the way to work?”

                “Uh, dad, we’re kind of holding up traffic here… WHAT THE HELL, DAD PLEASE GET OFF THE TANK, PLEASE, YOU’RE EMBARASSING ME”

                Tank Man was later given a medal for Most Epic Dad Moment

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      I believe there’s actually video footage of tank man climbing up on the tank, conversing with the tank commander, and then getting down and walking away.

      I’m told that many people were lying prone because there was machine gun fire from the battle between the PLA and the insurgents several blocks away.

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      You don’t get it! Deng flattened all the people with his fat cheeks, then inflated everyone back up, then cleaned up the blood and viscera but not the bodies!

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        You joke but there is a BBC article that literally claims that someone saw dead bodies of the protestors beinng churned and sent down the gutter or something like that.

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          Yes, it was the British Ambassador IIRC and the Australian prime minister caused a minor drama by reading out the cable like the next day.

          Incidentally that Australian Labor Prime Minister was informing to the US for decades prior and led the US-proposed agreement between unions, corporates and the government which ended up collapsing the union movement and bringing in a wave of austerity a decade later.

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          I remember that and it was that they ran tanks over hundreds of bodies for hours turning the remains into pulp so they could wash them down the gutters. It was years ago before I knew better and actually believed that shit. Imagine thinking that they were able to sneak out all these other photos but not any of the events they SAY happened? lol.