• themeatbridge@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      98
      ·
      4 months ago

      Yes.

      DAVID MUIR: Vice President Harris, thank you. President Trump, your response to her saying that you began the negotiations with the Taliban.

      FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: Yeah, thank you. So if you take a look at that period of time, the Taliban was killing our soldiers, a lot of them, with snipers. And I got involved with the Taliban because the Taliban was doing the killing. That’s the fighting force within Afghanistan. They don’t bother doing that because you know, they deal with the wrong people all the time. But I got involved. And Abdul is the head of the Taliban. He is still the head of the Taliban. And I told Abdul don’t do it anymore, you do it anymore you’re going to have problems. And he said why do you send me a picture of my house? I said you’re going to have to figure that out, Abdul. And for 18 months we had nobody killed. We did have an agreement negotiated by Mike Pompeo. It was a very good agreement. The reason it was good, it was – we were getting out.

      Emphasis added. Trump negotiated the surrender of Afghanistan with the Taliban, releaseing 5,000 Taliban prisoners and drawing down troops to an unsustainable level before leaving office. To protect the remaining troops (and the Afghani government) would have required Biden deploying all new troops and commiting to extending the occupation. Biden chose not to do that, and finished Trump’s surrender.

      • someguy3@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        21
        ·
        edit-2
        4 months ago

        You know thinking about his answer, he didn’t care about Afghanistan not falling. All he “cared” about was Americans not dieing, which didn’t work anyway because he telegraphed everything. He served up Afghanistan on a platter.

        • EvilBit@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          17
          ·
          4 months ago

          I guaran-goddamn-tee he’d feed a thousand American soldiers to Rottweilers if it would get him more power and fewer consequences for his venality. All he wanted was to sabotage Biden. Nothing more.

          • someguy3@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            4 months ago

            That’s true too. You can see it in the timing so that it would happen right at the start of Biden’s term. If it went well, Trump could take the credit. If it went bad, then it’s Biden’s fault.

            • EvilBit@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              5
              ·
              4 months ago

              It’s always been the right’s strongest play: sabotage the ship on the way out. It works especially well economically because of the lag time between policy and impact.

      • danc4498@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        4 months ago

        So if you take a look at that period of time, the Taliban was killing our soldiers, a lot of them, with snipers. And I got involved with the Taliban because the Taliban was doing the killing.

        Hmm, so context made it significantly worse this time.

  • scripthook@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    22
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    4 months ago

    The only successful deal he made was with terrorists that killed 3,000 American civilians in 9/11 and it was the worst deal to pull out of Afghanistan. He failed a deal with North Korea. And even with careful planning the complexity of the Afghanistan withdrawal would of been just as bad because the Afghan Goverment just handed territory over with no resistance

  • Blackout@fedia.io
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    15
    ·
    4 months ago

    “But, I’ll say it with great respect: Number one, Taliban not my type. Number two, it never happened.”

    • Dramaking37@lemmy.worldOP
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      4 months ago

      “But I’ll say, if the opportunity arose, I know their leader well, he is a strong man. We’d tag team well I think. Just really dive straight in.”

  • Not_mikey@slrpnk.net
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    8
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    4 months ago

    I didn’t like this line of attack, yes you’re going to have to negotiate with a terrorist organization after you lost a war to that terrorist organization and that organization is going to take control of the country. The fact that you talked with the Taliban isn’t the problem, the fact that you negotiated a bad deal is.

    • ulterno@lemmy.kde.social
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      4 months ago

      Does it really matter? Seems canon at least.
      Maybe he found some Taliban supporting potential voters and started spewing stuff to appease them?