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      I’ve seen people make blackface accusations over tanning spray and charcoal blackhead masks.

      Just today I got accused of transphobia again (on a different site) because somebody didn’t like my own lived experiences with the intersection between my transness and my exploration of non-judeo-christian spirituality.

      Like, I’ve had surgery to remove gendered parts. Twice. And I get called transphobic all. the. time. I literally just can’t with that entire community they’re so fucking detached from the rest of society in their little insular bubble where they take every single little thing waaay too seriously such that half the shit they say makes 0 sense. They’re so hung up on people they barely know following every single linguistic rule they made up in their little bubble and conceptualizing their gender in all its aspects exactly the same way they do that they’re impossible to deal with.

      My nibling who just came out themselves had a nasty breakup because the other person insisted that the way they were cuddling them was misgendering them. Just completely unhinged.

      I just want people to not give a a shit about my gender and I’m happy. You mind your business I’ll mind mine. But god forbid I say that I can’t personally empathize with the concept of gender at all. Apparently being surgically confirmed nonbinary isn’t enough to have my own experiences and feelings about my gender or lack thereof.

      Being trans isn’t in itself a mental illness but I’ve definitely noticed a trend of trauma from the wider societal nonacceptance leading to a much higher incidence of mental illnesses in that community. That plus the missing elders that died during the AIDs crisis has left a huge number of LGBT kids just absolutely fucking feral ffs.

      Sorry this got off topic but yeah anyway I’m turning into an old person at an alarming rate. I wish I had a trans community of people to spend time with who weren’t fucking insane, but we can’t always get what we want (which is a lesson a LOT of those people need to learn).

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    Wait, so Obama is black because his father is black and now Harris isn’t black even though her father is black? Do these idiots even hear themselves?

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      It feels like their rules are if your part minority, you’re a minority (which is how society treats people). However, you can only be a maximum of one minority in each category. Harris can be a women, but she can’t be both Indian and Black.

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        Their rules are you are whatever is beneficial to the propaganda web we’re currently spinning. Next week she’ll be black again.

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          Yup. It’s not worth any time trying to figure out their “rules”, because there are none, and they don’t need any. These deranged morons are unburdened by logic (or principles, morals, honesty, consistency). And there are entire industries now grinding out profit from the idiocy and hate. It’s just business.

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        I think it’s more like they can’t comprehend being half black if the other half is not white. Which really gives you some insight into what they think about everybody that isn’t white. The Republican worldview on race is the same as their worldview on everything else: literally black and white.

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      That seems to be the general thrust, but I have seen a few not-so-bright sparks suggest that Jamaicans aren’t really black.

      I even saw one person suggest that the fact that she is descended from an Irish plantation owner means she can’t be black. Which, gee, I wonder why a black person would be descended from a plantation owner?

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        Are you sure it was an Irish plantation owner? Most of the time Irish people in the Caribbean were working on plantations, not owning them. From what I’ve read, the person in question was a British person from Antrim - which is on the island of Ireland, but is part of the UK and was itself “plantationed” by Britain.

        It would be weird for example to refer to George Orwell as Indian, Louis Theroux as Singaporean or Duke Wellington as Irish - after all, “being born in a stable does not make one a horse” as the Duke put it when ‘accused’ of being Irish.

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      Schrodinger’s black person. A person is both black and not black at any given time untill a bigot decides what they are.

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      I think we need to talk about how Obama is white. It both uses their own stupid so-called logic against them and would seriously piss them off.

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      No you see he wasn’t black, he was just born in Kenya, and many people are born in Kenya, you don’t have to be black to be born in Kenya, i have many friends born in Kenya, Ok I’m done /s.

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    The four main MAGA attacks on Kamala Harris:

    1. She laughs.
    2. She hugs people.
    3. She’s pretending to be black.
    4. She’s black.
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      seen lots of comments insinuating that she slept her way to the top, calling her Kamala “on her back/knees” Harris. I just reply with *citation needed and they always either don’t respond or say “dO YouR ReSeArCh!”

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          Nothing says sleeping to the top like prominent posts that I just heard about today such as the California State Unemployment Insurance Appeals Board and the California Medical Assistance Commission.

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            Oh I didn’t make a judgement on it, just elaborating on where the belief stems from.

            Although I believe the issue(?) is that those are paid positions. Of course, she might’ve genuinely been the best person for those roles.

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              Oh, I wasn’t criticizing you, I was criticizing the people that are suggesting she slept her way to the top. I wouldn’t be overly concerned about the pay issue, both positions are in the $50k range, so not exactly the stuff of corruption.

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      Projection. Always projection. Remember that the House Un-American Activities Committee was all about canceling people for alleged Wrong Think.

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      I know we don’t do I objective viewpoints point on here, but there is a difference between thinking that it is okay to do blackface in the context of a movie or a play and accusing Harris of pretending to be black.

      I don’t agree with either of those points, but it’s silly to pretend they are the same.

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    “And you know what I’m very upset of?” Pierce added. “Let’s look at the little Black girl who dreams of being president of the United States in a few years.”

    “Kamala Harris is taking that title away just so she can sit here and try to win a voting bloc.”

    This is a weird fucking argument. Is he under the impression that if we elect a Black Woman that we won’t be allowed to do it again? That once we elect Kamala we’re obligated to return to an endless line of white men presidents?

    Or is he misspeaking here and saying that Kamala is stealing the title of “First Black Woman President” from some hypothetical little girl that deserves the “title” of First Black Woman President in like 20-30 years when she’s old enough to run for president (more like 50-60 years given the age of actual elected presidents)? Apparently we should keep voting against Black Women for the next few decades / half a century to save that covered title for some future Black Woman politician…

    All because they think that Jamaicans aren’t Black, because Black people can only come directly from Africa?

    They managed to cram a “save the children” argument, a dishonest idpol narrative, and overt racism into one argument. I’m as impressed with their efficiency as I am disgusted with their lack of humanity.

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      Man it’s not just Trump. It seems all these right wing nuts really can’t grasp the concept of biracial identities. It just wooshes right past their head and they keep making this “fake black” argument cause she’s not 100% African blood. Which by the way was the thing they were demonizing Obama for having too much of, and demanded his birth certificate.

      They think if you’re born biracial you have to pick one race and stick with it lol

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        I mean, obsession with racial purity is definitely not something the far-right is new to, I guess I shouldn’t be surprised that this is how they think normal people discuss race…

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        It seems all these right wing nuts really can’t grasp the concept of biracial identities

        They understand, they just think this is a “dog whistle” instead of overt racism.

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        No no, they completely grasp it. They just make the answer whatever they want it to be at the time.

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      Nope, just the one. Just the token black person so everyone knows we’re inclusive. We’re not allowed any others, ever again.

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      Is there really a group of white people gatekeeping blackness?

      Is there really a group of white racial-purity supremecists stroking out and shitting themselves over black racial-purity and not being black enough?

      Who is their baseline for blackness?

      What the hell is even going on?

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      It worked for Obama. That’s was his only credential. Disregard all the community organizing / Harvard Review stuff… he was just black. And worse yet, he wore TAN suits. Can you believe that shit? Man, being darker sure makes everything easier.

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        ooh a delicious Poe’s Law moment

        are you an idiot or hilarious?

        ah but the not knowing is the fun part

        edit: okay i didnt read the room, my bad. Im coming from reddit and Instagram, so im used to dealing with redditors and whoever Instagram is for. im new, I’ll adjust

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          They’re clearly being sarcastic. Like, Poe’s law is at least five whales away from the OP comment.

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              If we stack five whales end-to-end, we’d get a 125-meter-long “whale train,” long enough to confuse any passing ship captain into thinking they’ve discovered a new mode of ocean transportation.

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      just an endless march of black presidents at this point. how many have we had now? one? outrageous

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    Right wingers: she is strong and has a successful career. She can’t be black.

    Everybody: that’s weird

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    It’s a real lack of understanding if they assume that people are only voting for her because she is black. It’s going to be a really really weak strategy

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        I still remember when he won in 2008, feeling happy that he was able to win, not because he was black but despite it. He didn’t campaign on it at all. In hindsight, he campaigned on a vague notion of change, which I’m sure many thought it meant more than it really did.

        And then Hilary actually did campaign about voting her in because she’s a woman and it’s her turn. While Trump took on the vague “drain the swamp” message that many likely believed he meant something different by (when in hindsight, it was either an outright lie or he specifically meant the “swamp” of barriers between him and making money from whatever half-baked scam he was currently chasing).

        That said, let them think that. They’ll just waste their time making themselves look worse for focusing so much attention on something that isn’t really relevant to anything. I’m not even sure who the intended target audience of that accusation is. He might just end up making her more palatable for racists who are getting tired of him.

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            This is their best shot. Trump ran as a reform candidate, but he never delivered. At best (?) he built a fence that didn’t do anything. So he’s desperate to avoid policy discussions.

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      Rightists are fucked in the head. They’re probably imagining how they would react if they found out one of theirs wasn’t white.

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    She went to a historic black college and joined a black sorority… But sure, question her history on representing her black heritage

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    Who?

    Will Pierce. Who is this nobody? I mainly find Fox News and conservative think tanks on a quick search underlining how he’s some kind of GOP turncoat, and he doesn’t have a Wikipedia page. So some dude doesn’t like Harris.

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      If you took that image entirely out of context, as if you don’t know that they’re running a race, it’s pretty amusing.

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      that Jamaican’s silver was brutal ngl got a little bit sad watching his confused reaction.

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    Can the Republicans dig themselves any deeper… There was some clown on Facebook that went over ancestry… Like how long until you hit fascism?

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    African
    Song by Peter Tosh

    Don’t care where you come from
    As long as you’re a black man
    You’re an African
    No mind your nationality
    You have got the identity of an African

    'Cause if you come from Clarendon
    And if you come from Portland
    And if you come from Westmoreland
    You’re an African

    No mind your nationality
    You’ve got the identity of an African

    'Cause if you come Trinidad
    And if you come from Nassau
    And if you come from Cuba
    You’re an African

    No mind your complexion
    There is no rejection
    You’re an African

    'Cause if your plexion
    High If your complexion low, low, low
    And if your plexion in between
    You’re an African

    No mind denomination
    That is only segregation
    You’re an African

    Cause if you go to the Catholic
    And if you go to the Methodist
    And if you go to the Church of Gods
    You’re an African

    No mind your nationality
    You have got the identity of an African

    'Cause if you come from Brixton
    And if you come from Weesday
    And if you come from Wingstead
    And if you come from France
    …Brooklyn
    …Queens
    …Manhattan
    …Canada
    …Miami
    …Switzerland
    …Germany
    …Russia
    …Taiwan