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      5 months ago

      So if someone asks me to do a thing for them, I can only do it when working in an official professional capacity, or through unofficial favor exchanges?

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        5 months ago

        Sure. You can help your neighbor for free, a favor, whatever you want. You could also put in an order officially.

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          5 months ago

          That “whatever you want” is immediately going to turn into tokens, which are currency. That’s almost certainly how it happened originally.

          “I’ll do this for you if you give me some shiny rocks, then I can go to the city and trade them for a cool hat” or whatever.

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            5 months ago

            Why would you need to tokenize things with a large unofficial market of sole proprietors? Is that how you get your services done today?

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              5 months ago

              Because I don’t want anything you have, but trying to build a whole barter chain where we trade everything in sequence until everyone gets something they want is wildly impractical. As described in my first example.

              And yes, today I pay a dude money and he does the thing. I don’t have to clean his gutters so he’ll agree to knit me a sweater.

              Why do you think money came to be originally?

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                5 months ago

                That’s not what people are advocating for. 99% of producion would be handled by the government, you’re pretending the 1% would actually be 100%.

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                  5 months ago

                  If you go all the way to the start of this thread, it began with “Money shouldn’t exist. Hope that helps!”. So that’s what I’m arguing against. Money will be reinvented because it serves a very real purpose.

                  Also if something happens 1% of the time you still have to account for it.

                  And “I can do the thing. I don’t really enjoy it. For some incentive, I’ll do it” is more than 1% of what’s happening in life.

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                    5 months ago

                    Money has a real purpose in Capitalism that is entirely unnecessary in a developed Socialist system.

                    1% being favors doesn’t mean you need money.

                    I suggest you read Critique of the Gotha Programme for information on why Money itself should be eliminated eventually.