• Hegar@kbin.social
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    5 months ago

    Reading beyond the headline, I kind of agree that she faced a sexist double standard where she suffered electorally for things that wouldn’t have impacted a male candidate as strongly.

    Being a slimy, self-entitled political creature is pretty acceptable for a male politician.

    Then again she did win the election by 2 percentage points. So as much as I dislike her, it’s probably more of a structural issue than either sexism or candidate quality.

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      5 months ago

      She’s been suffering sexism for a long time. When bill was fucking around and cheating on her in the 90s, people were straight up blaming her for it. They were also being horrible to Monica L, while giving bill a wink and a nod for being a dude. The problem is that she took that and instead of making herself a softer, sympathetic and likable politician, she just doubled down on being harsh and unlikable.

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        5 months ago

        She helped provide cover for Bill while smearing his victims. It has nothing to do with sexism, she’s a shitty person.

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        I suspect a lot of people secretly dislike her for allowing herself to be treated that way. Riding his coattails to the Senate certainly didn’t help.

        If she were Hillary Rodham, who was something like a Congressperson -> Senator -> Presidential candidate, she might have won.

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          5 months ago

          Somewhat related but I was both happy and sad to see Edie Falco play Hilary on “impeachment”. She is so incredible in the role but we only got like a small handful of scenes of her.

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            I haven’t seen that but I am an Edie Falco fan after Sopranos and Jackie. I’ll have to check it out.

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            Yeah, it’s one of those things that some people try to convince themselves they don’t care about. They’ll say things like “that’s their relationship” or “she’s an independent woman”, I’m not sure they really believe it though. Most of them wouldn’t act the same way in their own relationships, unless they thought they had no other choice or had something to gain.

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      5 months ago

      2016 was a year for an anti establishment candidate. A slimy insider can work in years where that isn’t the case, see Biden or Bush Jr for examples of it working.

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        5 months ago

        Possibly timing played a role, sure. But both those candidates are men, so it could just be more proof of her point.

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          It’s really hard to prove sexism played a role in a presidential election, but the number of women serving for 20+ years in the house and senate makes it seem unlikely.

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      5 months ago

      Then again she did win the election by 2 percentage points.

      I must have slept through her entire presidency because I don’t remember her winning at all.

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        That would be the structural issue. The candidate who won the election by a light but comfortable margin (48 v 46) didn’t win power.