• PugJesus@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    Biden isn’t a realistic candidate if he doesn’t shift on Palestine.

    How convenient, Biden isn’t a realistic candidate if he doesn’t shift his position on YOUR issue of choice. Meanwhile, most of the American electorate puts foreign policy near the bottom of their list of concerns.

    He’s been polling below Trump for over a year. He suffers a 12 point polling error spread.

    Oh, and he’ll gain 12 points from swapping positions on Palestine?

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      6 months ago

      Like, do you see these threads?

      You’ve catalyzed a huge cohort of people against your position and approach. Do you see how many people are becoming activated and joining the conversation just to strike you down? This is because of your approach to rhetoric. You are actively costing Biden votes, like… right now.

      You can’t do this by convincing people to vote for the lessor. If you want the audience to vote for Biden, you have to take a different approach

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        You’ve catalyzed a huge cohort of people against your position and approach. Do you see how many people are becoming activated and joining the conversation just to strike you down?

        Oh damn, you’ve got me, let me check the ratios along these comments

        Still waiting for you to tell me how Palestine will win Biden 12 percentage points, in your view.

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            So if I present to you evidence that voting uncommitted in the primary isn’t evidence of intent to withhold their vote in the general, you’ll withdraw your position?

            Still waiting for you to tell me how he’s going to gain 12 percentage points from an issue that is one of the lowest rated on voter’s important issues.

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              Bro 30% of voters in MN, one of the most reliably democratic states in the country held their votes back from Biden because of Palestine.

              If Biden doesn’t get WI, MN, IL and MN, he’s done. 0 chance. He can’t get those states right now. The only question is what is it going to take to get him to move policy positions, and what is showing effectiveness in this regard is withholding support.

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                FYI: I voted uncommitted to send a message to Biden that I care about Gaza and what happens there. I also recognize that the Republicans will jump in with both feet on “burn it to the ground with nuclear fire”, so I did what I could to communicate with Biden, and will also be voting for him in the general. I’m one vote, but I know I’m not the only person with that view.

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                So you have nothing in response except to repeat yourself despite the objections raised. Unsurprising.

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                  I see you out here laying down this logic, and I’m trying to do the same. Keep at it bro.

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                    Fighting the good fight against accelerationism, authoritarianism, and bad faith. I don’t have the emotional energy to do so with any consistency at this time - the 21st century has been very draining. Make sure that you take time for self-care. @pugjesus you too.

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        Like, do you see these threads?

        You’ve catalyzed a huge cohort of people against your position and approach. Do you see how many people are becoming activated and joining the conversation just to strike you down?

        LMAO he’s clearly getting more and more upvotes. While you’re getting downvoted and removed. You’re so delusional.

        Keep it up though, you’re doing a great job of the exact opposite of what you think you’re doing.