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    1. It’s very hard to improve things, hard to keep the status quo in the face of those trying to tear it down, and really really easy to take a blowtorch to it. “Not regressing” is fucking huge, and if you doubt that, you need to read more history (the Renaissance started by just getting back to where the Greeks were thousands of years prior)

    2. If every day you push fascism off till the next day, you’ll never have fascism .

    3. 1% of what you want is literally infinitely more than zero percent. If you don’t think 1% matters, I suggest you look up “compound interest”.

    Blue no matter who.

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      The problem is, Democrats are fascist too, the Republicans just more nakedly so. Domestically, racial minorities, gender/sexuality minorities, and the poor all suffer just as thoroughly under D’s as R’s. Wars of extermination and plunder as still waged overtly and covertly across the globe by the USA regardless if the bombs are blue or red. Democrats do not functionally make anything better, they just virtue signal that they do. They are paid by the corporate oligarchy to be a sinkhole for leftward potential; look, they sat back and did nothing but say some glib words and pass around a few petitions when Republicans reversed Roe v. Wade. They’ll cry crocodile tears and wring their hands and promise you ohh, ohh, ohh, we’re trying our best, please please please oh please don’t forget to donate and vote in this upcoming election oh please. They promise that it’s just oh so hard to move the needle, and yet when they hold 2+ branches of government with supermajorities they do nothing, and yet when Republicans have 51% of the power they easily pass legislation and executive orders and unprecedented actions to get things done. You can say this is just the smug faux-moral superiority that the civilized Democrats are exhibiting, but it isn’t, because look how quickly they are to act with the same decisive ruthlessness on matters of giving trillions to the banks, the CIA, Homeland Security, the army, the police, the oil and food and real estate and automobile tycoons, to horrid despots across the globe who do their dirty work for them.

      Stop it. Stop making bullet point listicles and thinking of clever mental Olympic gold medal gymnastics to excuse to yourself that there are still good guys in American electoral politics and that if we just have a really viral peaceful protest and suck mud off of Democrat boots and watch another video essay and fight for progressive standpoints on social media that you can slowly change this society into something better. I’m sorry but you’re tugging on a rock with the mass of the Moon as it rolls down the hill. The writing was on the wall decades ago: the United States didn’t become fascist with Trump, it has always been fascist and you are only just now seeing some signs. When both Republicans and Democrats were more “moderate” in the previous century, this was still a fascist empire that is run by a ruling class that wants to enslave, invade, murder and steal. Every tiny good thing that has ever been administered by the USian ruling class has been to quash imminent revolutionary fervor, be it the New Deal or Civil Rights or faux-progressive Wokeism or stimulus checks.

      Name one issue that Biden, Obama, Clinton, any of those evil fuckers did better than the Republicans. Abortion? War? Militarized police? Immigration? Clean water? Affordable healthcare, school, housing? Fascist violence? The environment? Corruption? Zero, zilch, nada, negative, they haven’t done shit, and it’s not because they want to and they’re just spineless losers, it’s because they’re snakes who clink glasses with Republicans and the same privatized overlords who all chuckle at you because you’re being a damn sucker, dude, and you’re better than that. I understand you want a better society, we all do here. Give up the blue shit, it’s not the route out. This ship is sinking, read the waters, all we can do now is ensure that in the chaos of the failing American federal state that we can defeat the fascists and create a truly just and equitable society.

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      hard to keep the status quo in the face of those trying to tear it down

      The status quo should be torn down

      by just getting back to where the Greeks were thousands of years prior

      Oh look, yet another Westoid with a bullshit 19th century understanding of history and enamored with the “regaining lost knowledge” trope. There was no “regression”, that is a myth, this idea that the Greeks and Romans were more advanced than medieval people is simply not borne out by the evidence. Society was in many ways more advanced in the medieval era than in antiquity.

      Blue no matter who

      Fuck off. Voting for Democrats is voting for fascism.

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      1% of what you want is literally infinitely more than zero percent.

      You’re in a desert dying of thirst. One person offers you a single drop of water and a second offers you nothing.

      Does it matter that the first person offers infinitely more than the second?

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      Dumbass logic. You can neither push away Fascism nor vote it out, as Fascism is literally a product of the Capitalist system.

      Also, you’re assuming the current status quo is good and must be protected. This is wrong, it should (and has to) be overthrown and replaced by a dictatorship of the proletariat. Only this can stop Fascism by cutting the root of all evil.