• jeffw@lemmy.worldM
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    8 months ago

    Did you have an actual response to the fact that hospitals need funding?

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      The short answer is no. You may stop reading now as the next sentence is similar to the last one.

      If it wasn’t clear to you, I’m busy dismissing your opinion as uninformed and without merit. It is clearly, objectively wrong, and the idea that you deserve a voice in this discussion with the level of information you own currently? Patently ridiculous.

      Your sense of self worth would be admirable is it weren’t so misplaced.

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        It’s wrong that hospitals need money to operate? Bud, I got a master’s in this… which hospital are you aware of that doesn’t pay for electricity or pay its providers with money? Talk about patently ridiculous.

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            Apologies in advance, my app doesn’t seem to want to show me what context this is in, so I might be off base in my reply, but yeah, that’s a good solution. The problem is that in the USA, if you raise taxes by .0001% people throw temper tantrums. They’d rather pay out the ass for private insurance. I know people on Lemmy don’t feel that way, but that’s how Americans are.

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            Healthcare administration. Why did you dodge my question? Where do hospitals not pay for their electricity or pay their workers money?

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              Healthcare administration

              Holy shit dude.

              C’mon.

              If you are an intelligent human being, as i assume you are despite your ridiculous opinion, (and despite your ridiculous joke of a degree), can you step outside what you’ve been taught, rise above my provocations, and explain why, objectively a reasonable human being shouldn’t be skeptical of the opinion of some person whose existence depends on their being right? A goddamn hospital admin degree? Foreal?

              Why Not ask the ceo of kellogs what we should eat for dinner?

              Im not gonna ignore you like i do most of the shitbirds who argue by insinuating and suggesting intelligence rather than replying first with a cogent, interesting proof of economic understanding. I actually can’t wait to hear what you’ve got to tell me. I think it’s going to be entertaining. I also think you should actually cut your losses and use your degree to understand that you’re in over your head, but i suspect they this conversation that kinna smarts isn’t taught in college anymore.

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                Wow that’s a lot of words to say you can’t think of how to run a hospital without paying people.

                And I agree, the fact that you need a master’s to understand how a healthcare organization runs is absurd, but that’s the state of things in the USA (to be clear, the MHA is my secondary master’s, but it’s the field I ended up in). However, my existence doesn’t depend on anything. If we were nationalized, I’d still have my job, just like the janitors or the administrators everywhere else in the world. You can’t just run a medical practice with a doctor and no other staff. I’m sure you’re creative enough to think through this and understand that maintaining a building, checking people in, running computer systems, etc. requires more than just a doctor.

                To add to this, I could make more money doing a very similar job at a random company. Take Kellogg’s as an example. But I don’t, because I like working with patients and providers. But keep on assuming I’m an asshole because I work in healthcare and I’m not a clinical staff.

                Now, back to my original point, which I’m really fascinated to hear the answer to. Since you seem to argue that I can’t pay my docs, janitors, nurses, or utility bills, how do I keep things open? Even a nationalized system pays salaries. A healthcare system needs money, unless you’re in a society that doesn’t rely on money.

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                    I apologize, I think you’re too smart for me. May I ask you to dumb down your point for someone who has such a low IQ that they got stuck working at a hospital? I jest in how I say that, but I legitimately do not get what you’re so angry at me for.

                    You’re free to block me, although I’m not clear why you’re so mad that I criticized the US healthcare system when you also seem to be angry at the same system.

                    Maybe this is all my fault for wording my original post poorly, sorry.