I like pancakes. And green beans.

I’m not a Liberal, they’re not my party. They are the party out of the two front runners which is more aligned with my interests than the other.

The left needs to realize it’s not a matter of entitlement, it’s simple game theory harm reduction. The environment in which you pursue leftist goals will be predominantly colored by the winner in November. You can enable an environment which is unfavorable to leftist empowerment, or extremely unfavorable to leftist empowerment.

Would you rather try to push progressive action under Biden, or Trump? I personally believe progressive action will be more successful under Biden than Trump, so I will be voting accordingly. Blue conservatives are better for leftists than red fascists.

The time to demand more isn’t 4 months before the election. It’s not really the year of the election. The time to demand more is 10+ years before the election, supporting better candidates in smaller elections, rallying behind those candidates as they climb the ladder, and supporting those candidates right after the last election before the one you want them to win.

But I don’t see that. I see no more than a slim minority doing any demanding until the last minute, when it does more harm than good.

Yeah, I think any other Dem candidate is a gamble: you lose out on the significant incumbent boost, you only have 4 months to campaign if you start now, and you risk losing momentum on the moderate vote. This isn’t an election I want to gamble with, especially with the recent SCOTUS ruling. Everything said and done, I don’t think the benefits outweigh the risks.

November 6th is when we should start pushing for significant changes. 11th hour fuckery isn’t going to help this cycle.

I agree with all of this, but it’s not an alternative, it’s just an additional vector of action. My question is about alternatives to Biden for president in this election.

People who like Biden are doubling down because they’re afraid of a contentious replacement process or an untested candidate falling flat and they genuinely think Biden is the best option in this context.

I don’t particularly care for Biden. He’s better than I expected, but certainly not ideal. He’s still pretty clearly the best option this election. Certainly not the best choice to run the country, but once you account for odds of success, there’s really not a viable alternative

You got a practical alternative you’d like to share with the class?

The material results that I care about, that reasonable adults care about, revolve around stopping the Federalists, Fascists, and Fundamentalists. Or are you on their side?

So the answer to that question is “Yes”. Got it. I’m not surprised.

He’s actually been surprisingly effective. Your distaste doesn’t negate his numerous policy accomplishments with tangible benefits.

Even disregarding that, even if he was ineffective, he’s not trying to concentrate power into the hands of Federalists, Fascists, and Fundamentalists, so he is by default the superior choice to those who are. The material results that I care about, that reasonable adults care about, revolve around stopping the Federalists, Fascists, and Fundamentalists. Or are you on their side?

IDGAF who does or doesn’t accept blame for whatever. I care about material results; my future, my family’s future, my neighbors’ futures, the future of the people who live in this country, and this world. IDGAF how ideologically pure a politician is, or who’s wrong or right, or who gets away with whatever. I care about the people who are going to suffer if the Federalists, Fascists, and Fundamentalists keep establishing their foothold judge by judge, bill by bill, ruling by ruling.

This isn’t grade school, this isn’t a game, this isn’t about fair. There are real stakes here. People will die. I’m not heartless enough to play the blame game with lives on the line. I’m voting harm reduction because I’m an adult and I play the hand I’m dealt. Righteously losing doesn’t help anything but ego-centric deontology.

I still think an elected chamber is important.

Senate

As for a President’s unofficial acts, there is no immunity. Although Presidential immunity is required for official actions to ensure that the President’s decisionmaking is not distorted by the threat of future litigation stemming from those actions, that concern does not support immunity for unofficial conduct. Clinton, 520 U. S., at 694, and n. 19. The separation of powers does not bar a prosecution predicated on the President’s unofficial acts.

I want to expand the House to proper proportionality and staff it by sortition.

That’s on me for assuming I didn’t have to specify an alternative which isn’t entirely counterproductive. Just like you generally don’t hear people talking about coal-burning steam engines as an alternate energy source for cars. If your alternative causes more problems than it solves, it’s not an alternative worth mentioning.

An alternative that relies on a majority of voters completely changing their voting strategies is not a workable alternative. Third party is a spoiler, always. A bit for Jill Stein only makes Trump more probable.

Uh huh, and historically violent authoritarian transitional regimes are always so willing to step aside after the transition.

This is shamelessly false though? What are you smoking?

How many people are actually advocating for non voting?

Uh, lots. There’s been a tireless effort here in leftist spaces discouraging voting for “genocide Joe” without actually providing alternatives.

Well, they never give a reason why it has to be Biden.

It’s because politics moves slowly and it’s way too late for someone else to start campaigning, plus he’s the incumbent. If you had someone in mind a year ago, it would be worth discussing. It’ll never happen in the next 4 months.