I actually have mental health struggles. I take meds every day. I’m at baseline. When someone says “seek help” and I’m fine it’s insulting and demeaning. I’m doing nothing wrong. You’re being rude to me. This whole thread is about a food crisis that a lot of people on here agree is happening, most in fact, and you are in denial of their experience with this aggressive rhetoric. If you think oil production is unrelated to food production there are better ways to express yourself on that.

You are so incredibly mean.

I think you are part of that other completely different culture that is now colliding with ours and we just have no clue how to talk to you people and you have no clue how to talk to us. You seem very rude to me. What makes sense to you and which you take for granted seems completely nonsensical to me, and vice versa. I don’t even know where to begin. It’s like you’re speaking a different language entirely.

It feels like you’re incessantly going after me in a bad faith discussion style.

I’m confused. What do you want evidence for? Seems like various common knowledge being mentioned. And why do you think I’m making some big argument? I’m trying to have a broader discussion, more like brainstorming, not a debate. Why all the fuss?

Yeah and that’s only because they lean that way by slim majorities. There’s still mid 40s percent democrat affiliation here in both counties. I’d like to see a version of this map that shows the purple continuum. That would reveal even more.

What’s the medium sized red dot just north of LA? I live around there and it makes sense but there’s a lot of small-ish towns around here and I don’t know what it represents. What population patterns do these dots represent? I’m guessing the red dot is either Visalia, Tulare County, San Joaquin Valley in general, or Fresno.

I’m referring to shale oil peaking. That’s the only reason oil production has increased in the United States recently - shale oil production increasing massively over the last decade. I saw something that seemed to indicate the US shale oil peaking which would be a major factor in food production going forward and may have spooked the markets and thereby disrupted supply chains. What do you think I mean by ‘factor’ or ‘depends heavily on’? When someone is brainstorming it’s common courtesy not to get all dismissive and degrading, also basic decency.

What? What do you think I mean by that? I’m making a basic statement about reality that seems foreign to you, not one of those mystical things people say. All of these factors in agriculture are intertwined especially the way in which oil pervades the production process.

Everything is connected.

There is a broader crisis at work you should really be aware of. Watch ‘Collapse’. It’s a great documentary centered on the work of sustainability activist Michael Ruppert that gets into this.

What are you talking about? It’s a major factor. I didn’t say it was the only factor.

Literally agriculture depends heavily on oil.

Agriculture depends heavily on oil.

Yeah around there. I’ll check it out.

What do you mean you don’t see the relevance of shale oil production?

If I don’t starve before then.

What argument do you think I’m making? I posted about some things I was going through, was clearly looking for general advice (not debate), got name-called and demeaned by one person out of nowhere while others gave normal advice, tried to make the person aware that they were violating the tone set forth in the post, got attacked further, tried to fight back and what - now I’m in a debate? I didn’t sign up for a debate session or a roast. This is obviously a vulnerable post and should be pretty easy to follow suit with the other commenters who posted normally. Not everything related to constructive criticism is about debate. You can provide constructive criticism without offering debate per se.

You keep adding parts to your comment. Just make a new comment.

I’ve turned inward plenty. It’s valid that I feel gaslit. I should trust my instincts.

No the other guy effing loves Israel. You love guns. Also why are you making a big deal of me awkwardly trying to solve some issues in my life by calling it weird? Don’t you think I have a reason to be on here? You’re both being straight up bullies.