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    So you don’t think there are any issues with how men are treated on the left?

    As progressive as the left can be, men have been left behind and are still often expected to ‘just be a man’, while dealing with double standards and sometimes being treated like they’re inherently bad.

    Edit: Copying what vzq has said to me for visibility, as this is the exact problem. Do I sound like the angry toddler in this discussion?

    “I want to be treated fairly and based on how I act, and yet I don’t get that.” You are being treated based on how act. You act like a spoiled toddler that thinks he’s owed some consideration by strangers.

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      I believe these issues exist in some places in the world like the usa.

      Personally as a cis man i dont experience these issues at all. I am more radical left leaning then my sisters.

      The right just appear like some intolerant macho cult. They are the last people i would feel safe.

      It has to be set though I recognize many fellow men do exhibit this weird macho psychology as well as laziness and illusion that they somehow know me or what i want. I never consider that to have political grounds.

      If i have a choice to interact with either sex i am Biased to chose the women because i feel like there actually perceive and speak to me as individual rather then pretending i am their best friend cardboard cutout.

      In my experience women are more honest as sales people and more helpfull as a frontdesk clerk. This is bias and exceptions exist. I myself am an exceptions. Statistical perception though…

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        I haven’t heard another guy talk about other dudes assuming you are just like them/same politics etc, but its something I’ve experienced a lot. I often have to break the news I’m not a safe space for whatever bs they are spewing.

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      9 months ago

      How exactly are men treated by the left? Perhaps you can give some examples so people understand what your problem is.

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      No, I honestly do not. I do my level best to treat everyone as a person and when I mess up I apologize and try and do better. That works pretty well.

      If you are treated like you are inherently bad, you may be not as good as you think you are.

      Edit: nice edit man. Totally not what an angry toddler would do.

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        If you are treated like you are inherently bad, you may be not as good as you think you are.

        Ah, blame the victim. Men get treated a certain way so it must be their fault…

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        Again, just disregarding how men feel, where does that get us?

        I absolutely do not act in the way that men are accused of, but blanket statements about “MeN BaD” are so frequent and widely accepted, and it’s just ignored or even praised.

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          Can you give a more precise example? I hope you do not mean individuals who write stuff online. In what way do left oriented organisations treat all men like they are bad?

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        Thanks for proving their point lol

        You just flipped blame on the individual without even attempting to understand anything about them.

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          I know what they type. They are responsible for that at least, aren’t they?

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            Thanks for proving my point, what have I said that’s bad?

            I want to be treated fairly and based on how I act, and yet I don’t get that.

            You’ve tried to tell me that I do act like that, despite the fact you have absolutely nothing to back that up… The exact problem.

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              I want to be treated fairly and based on how I act, and yet I don’t get that.

              You are being treated based on how act. You act like a spoiled toddler that thinks he’s owed some consideration by strangers.

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                Okay, you’re obviously just looking for an argument at this point.

                I’m not your enemy, I just ask that you reflect on what I’ve said. You don’t have to, but being open minded and showing compassion are supposedly the cornerstone of the left.