Aaron Keller pledged to improve the game for “players who are playing now.”

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      deliberately steal a game people liked to replace it with an addiction machine

      what the actual fuck are you talking about

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        The reason Overwatch 2 is the worst reviewed game Steam has ever had?

        A bad game does a lot less harm than a game that seems good on the surface then tries to rob you blind.

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          by “tries to rob you blind” you mean a game with entirely optional additional purchases?

          wow you’re right they really get you with that “you can pay if you want” model

          it’s practically criminal definitely worthy of being the worst ranked game on steam

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              then please explain why Counter Strike Global Offensive, Team Fortress 2, Dota 2, etc. don’t deserve to have the same rating

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                As far as I’m concerned they do. But my opinion doesn’t decide the rating of a game any more than yours that’s it’s supposedly a better game than bad rats.

                It’s a product of everyone who votes giving their opinion, and the entire steam userbase has come to the consensus that Overwatch 2 is a particularly egregious example of it.

                It cannot possibly be a review bomb when the reviews are legitimate opinions based on what the game is.

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                  supposedly a better game than bad rats

                  the previously referenced games all sit above 80% positive and yet have the exact same problems that you cite as OW2’s reason for being bad

                  legitimate opinions

                  “the zeitgeist has told them that the game is bad” is not a legitimate reason for not liking OW2, hence accusations of review bombing

                  if you think there are legitimate reasons OW2 deserves the rating it has, by all means please provide them, but so far all you’ve given me are #badthings that also apply to basically all the popular F2P games on Steam.

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                    Because it’s a F2P game that is monetized as such and exists only to make the game I bought obsolete.

                    I bought a game.

                    The game I have now is not the game I bought.

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                    Those games are not nearly as aggressive in their attempts to get you to buy shit. CSGO? a tiny ass fucking button to buy Prime. TF2? Don’t even remember seeing a shop button.

                    OW2? Makes the worst, money hungry mobile free-to-play blush with how aggressive it tries to sell you shit.

                    And they killed OW1, just for this.

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        The original Overwatch, which had none of this shit and was a one-off payment, was killed off in favour of OW2

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          leaving a negative review because of that would by definition be review bombing, because at that point you’re not reviewing the game, but external context that surrounds it

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            Not really. Reviewing the game as OW with enshittification is a perfectly reasonable review of OW2 in and of itself.

            Especially if the publishers made the one-off purchase version unusable just to push people onto the enshittified one.

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              “i liked overwatch 1” is not a valid review of the game overwatch 2, and people leaving reviews to that effect en-masse is pretty textbook review bombing

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                Yes it is. It’s perfectly valid.

                It says that the changes in Overwatch 2 are unpopular with the reviewer.

                If the changes were positive or even unnoteworthy, that review wouldn’t be there

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                  if you’re reviewing specific things you don’t like, that’s reviewing a product

                  leaving a negative review because “OW1 was killed off” isn’t doing that

                  if you want to discuss specific things you don’t like, please provide some that would reasonably justify OW2 being literally the worst reviewed game on steam rn

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                    leaving a negative review because “OW1 was killed off” isn’t doing that

                    Leaving a review because “OW1 was killed off” and the intended transition route was a drastically inferior product, is in fact reviewing a product.

                    Context is actually an important part of reviews. Orcarina or Time looks like a shit game today, and needs the context of being a late 90’s innovator to fully appreciate it. Likewise, a BoTW clone would look fantastic, a game changer, even…if a certain 2017 game hadn’t already set the benchmark.

                    Calling something an inferior version of its predecessor, which was cynically shut down to push people to this inferior product, is worthy review information. It tells people that a superior product existed, and all this new product is, is the enshittification of it.