• Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    I can guarantee you that Oregon is absolutely not looking at Idaho.

    Idaho chose to be antivax, then flooded Oregon/Washington hospitals for treatment.

    Idaho chose to restrict women’s health services, then medical staff ran off to work in Oregon/Washington.

    While OR/WA chose to increase hourly pay, Idaho chose against it.

    The average Idaho citizen is absolutely worse off than their neighbor.

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        9 months ago

        It shows how much people are fueled by culture war nonsense in rural Oregon. I lived in one of the counties that voted to join Idaho and I never heard a single reason from anybody that was reasonable. It was all based on far right talking points about transing the kids or taking the guns. Meanwhile stuff like minimum wage that would actually affect everyone was just ignored.

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          When people vote for something I agree with = well informed, responsible, mature adults making the right choice.

          When people vote for something I disagree with = braindead, deluded, immature savages falling victim to propaganda.

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            You don’t have to be stupid to fall victim to propaganda. It happens to literally everyone, every single living human being, in the modern age. We are being assaulted from all sides at all times with conflicting information.

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              9 months ago

              Yes but that doesn’t mean everyone who votes a certain way is a victim of propaganda. Believe it or not, it’s actually possible to take in the arguments from both sides and then make up your mind independently of what those around you think.

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            9 months ago

            Are you saying you agree with the antivax, anti-womens rights, anti-lgbtq, anti-working class views?

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              9 months ago

              I know a loaded question when I see one, and this one’s more loaded than a college freshman at a fraternity party.

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                  Seeing as though most of eastern Oregon is predominantly agricultural, I don’t see how anti-working class fits in the picture.

                  The remainder are just weaponized political buzzwords designed to inspire people to hatred. One could just as well say pro-liberty, pro-life, and pro-family.

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                    The anti working class might be a bit of the stretch, but for the rest, they say as much on their website. They don’t like:

                    Critical Race Theory, Males in Girls Sport Leagues, COVID rules, carbon caps, illegals (they mention illegals 3 times), abortion, and my favorite one “Fossil fuels being phased out”

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            9 months ago

            Yea idk, when I disagree with something it’s usually because I’ve given it the chance to convince me and it failed. And if I agree with something it’s because I’ve taken the time to understand it. It would be a bit weird to not feel like things I agree with are the right, or better, direction and that the things I disagree with are somehow broken in their reasoning.

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                9 months ago

                I’m struggling to understand, are you suggesting you just keep thinking about it until you get a specific belief about it? How does that sound good?

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                    9 months ago

                    That’s supremely condescending. You could help me understand but instead you’re literally just doing what you say others do, assuming anyone who doesn’t believe the same way you do isn’t thinking about it long enough.

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      9 months ago

      Oregon/Washington getting all the educated medical personnel sounds like a great deal for them

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      Could you explain that to the eastern half of Oregon that unironically suggested switching to become part of Idaho about a year ago?