• worfamerryman@beehaw.org
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    1 year ago

    They talk about for the number of requests has grown as the number of users has. Previously they advised users to use their onion address.

    Additionally they said the emails and other stuff is encrypted so it’s really just some meta data that is being handed over.

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      1 year ago

      just some metadata…

      We kill people based on metadata https://www.wired.com/2015/03/data-and-goliath-nsa-metadata-spying-your-secrets/

      And don’t for a second think you’re safe just because you’re not doing anything wrong. The people you’re in communication with could be a target, and you could be the plus one collateral, or just the plus one cleaning the network up. You don’t want to be a target. Metadata can make you an inadvertent target. Even if you’re doing everything right yourself

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        Then what do you suggest for an email client? My point is, you do the best you can and not make a big deal on couple thousand requests being handed over when there are 100m accounts.

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          Tutanota is the only email provider that I know that stores all data encrypted, AT REST.

          Due to the nature of email, messages in transit are not encrypted (at least the metadata).

          Depending on your risk tolerance, this might be fine.

          I would recommend end to end encrypted communication for sensitive information (signal, etc).

          Consult privacy guides for the tradeoffs of email and messengers.

    • randomguy2323@lemmy.kevitprojects.com
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      1 year ago

      Yes as I said before its not like yes I will use Proton mail for nefarious stuff and expect that Proton will defend you against a government. The user is responsible for their data safety.

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        1 year ago

        I completely agree. It’s hard for a lot if people to look at the big picture and realize that the data handed over was likely for some pretty serious illegal stuff.

        Additional, most people just are trying to hide their data from advertisers.