That’s actually ahistorical, Bernie was fucked over in 2016 and was beating Hillary until superdelagates got involved. In 2020, Bernie beat Biden in most states that Biden beat Trump in, Biden only picked up steam when it came to red state primaries. The people want Bernie.
Did Bernie win, though? No. Again, superdelegates and careful design of the electoral process prevents anyone from actually rocking the boat.
Politics absolutely matters, elections at the federal level are loss prevention, and at the local level you can genuinely get Socialists into office. However, meaningful political change occurs when there’s grassroots momentum, like the Civil Rights Movement and Black Panthers. Unionization is one of the best ways to force political change.
Please, feel free to continue mouthing off and putting words in my mouth, you can continue being a radlib and supporting the status quo like your life depends on it, unfortunately I’m not privledged enough to not advocate for meaningful change.
Clinton won the popular vote. Bernie would have had to get nearly ALL the superdelegates to vote against the popular vote to win. All they did was cement Clinton’s victory. His campaign also raised and spent more money.
I don’t know where your reading of 2016 has come from. Is this just copium that Bernie didn’t win? which part of the less votes from more money is the capitalist conspiracy?
And again, Biden beat Bernie even harder than Clinton did. People vote for who they want to be president. America doesn’t want Bernie to be President.
And look at that, the popularity of Bernie has moved the Democrats further left.
It’s crazy how you can be so wrong. The DNC colluded with Hillary against Bernie, it was proven in email leaks circa 2016. As for 2020, again, Biden won against Bernie in red states that went to Trump, Bernie beat Biden pretty handily in blue states.
Bernie hasn’t pushed the dems meaningfully to the left, just the population. The DNC is just as Neoliberal as ever.
But he didn’t win the popular vote in 2016 or 2020! What do you think that means? Yes obviously he beat Biden in the more left wing states, because he is more left wing. But because he is less popular, he lost overall. The DNC ‘collusion’ was some emails then the emailers resigned. When they weren’t colluding, he lost even harder. They’re not rigging elections. This is QAnon level shit. The Dems are meaningfully more left wing. That’s such a blatantly, irrefutably obvious fact I don’t know what to tell you. Look at the shit Biden has done, it did not happen in the Obama era.
You don’t understand the process of primaries, I suppose, and again, Bernie won the states that ended up going to Biden. Bernie would’ve won regardless, likely winning what Hillary lost.
It’s a known fact the DNC colluded, there’s mountains of evidence. The dems are not more meaningfully left wing, Biden hasn’t pushed America any closer to Socialism, lmao.
Well you’re refusing to educate me if I am wrong. Point to a single action the DNC took that cost Bernie the election. Biden and Clinton got more votes so won. Why are you hung up on some states?
I’m not sure why you keep instructing me to mouth off, kinda weird.
I showed you, the DNC collaborated with Hillary. Read up on that collaboration behind closed doors.
I’m hung up on Biden winning states that didn’t matter for the general election because they went to Trump anyways. Biden ran on being the “safe” option even though Bernie was polling better.
The fact is, the DNC won’t move left because they need donations from wealthy Capitalists.
So your problem is that we should only care about the votes of Democrats in safe blue states? Is the idea we shouldn’t count the votes of Democrats in red states in the primaries? This makes no sense.
Yeah the DNC being meaningfully anti Bernie is QAnon level conspiracy nonsense. At a basic level of analysis it makes no sense. I’ve read up on it plenty and it only confirms this. Ideological, partisan nonsense that is honestly embarrassing for the left wing.
I would vote Bernie and I think he should have been President. But he didn’t get the fucking votes so he isn’t. Tough luck.
Nah, you just don’t understand primaries nor do you understand electoralism, and dismissing it at QAnon bullshit because reality disagrees with you just proves me right.
That’s actually ahistorical, Bernie was fucked over in 2016 and was beating Hillary until superdelagates got involved. In 2020, Bernie beat Biden in most states that Biden beat Trump in, Biden only picked up steam when it came to red state primaries. The people want Bernie.
Did Bernie win, though? No. Again, superdelegates and careful design of the electoral process prevents anyone from actually rocking the boat.
Politics absolutely matters, elections at the federal level are loss prevention, and at the local level you can genuinely get Socialists into office. However, meaningful political change occurs when there’s grassroots momentum, like the Civil Rights Movement and Black Panthers. Unionization is one of the best ways to force political change.
Please, feel free to continue mouthing off and putting words in my mouth, you can continue being a radlib and supporting the status quo like your life depends on it, unfortunately I’m not privledged enough to not advocate for meaningful change.
Ok I will continue ‘mouthing off’.
Clinton won the popular vote. Bernie would have had to get nearly ALL the superdelegates to vote against the popular vote to win. All they did was cement Clinton’s victory. His campaign also raised and spent more money.
I don’t know where your reading of 2016 has come from. Is this just copium that Bernie didn’t win? which part of the less votes from more money is the capitalist conspiracy?
And again, Biden beat Bernie even harder than Clinton did. People vote for who they want to be president. America doesn’t want Bernie to be President.
And look at that, the popularity of Bernie has moved the Democrats further left.
It’s crazy how you can be so wrong. The DNC colluded with Hillary against Bernie, it was proven in email leaks circa 2016. As for 2020, again, Biden won against Bernie in red states that went to Trump, Bernie beat Biden pretty handily in blue states.
Bernie hasn’t pushed the dems meaningfully to the left, just the population. The DNC is just as Neoliberal as ever.
Again, keep mouthing off.
But he didn’t win the popular vote in 2016 or 2020! What do you think that means? Yes obviously he beat Biden in the more left wing states, because he is more left wing. But because he is less popular, he lost overall. The DNC ‘collusion’ was some emails then the emailers resigned. When they weren’t colluding, he lost even harder. They’re not rigging elections. This is QAnon level shit. The Dems are meaningfully more left wing. That’s such a blatantly, irrefutably obvious fact I don’t know what to tell you. Look at the shit Biden has done, it did not happen in the Obama era.
You don’t understand the process of primaries, I suppose, and again, Bernie won the states that ended up going to Biden. Bernie would’ve won regardless, likely winning what Hillary lost.
It’s a known fact the DNC colluded, there’s mountains of evidence. The dems are not more meaningfully left wing, Biden hasn’t pushed America any closer to Socialism, lmao.
Keep mouthing off, it’s funny.
Well you’re refusing to educate me if I am wrong. Point to a single action the DNC took that cost Bernie the election. Biden and Clinton got more votes so won. Why are you hung up on some states?
I’m not sure why you keep instructing me to mouth off, kinda weird.
I showed you, the DNC collaborated with Hillary. Read up on that collaboration behind closed doors.
I’m hung up on Biden winning states that didn’t matter for the general election because they went to Trump anyways. Biden ran on being the “safe” option even though Bernie was polling better.
The fact is, the DNC won’t move left because they need donations from wealthy Capitalists.
So your problem is that we should only care about the votes of Democrats in safe blue states? Is the idea we shouldn’t count the votes of Democrats in red states in the primaries? This makes no sense.
Yeah the DNC being meaningfully anti Bernie is QAnon level conspiracy nonsense. At a basic level of analysis it makes no sense. I’ve read up on it plenty and it only confirms this. Ideological, partisan nonsense that is honestly embarrassing for the left wing.
I would vote Bernie and I think he should have been President. But he didn’t get the fucking votes so he isn’t. Tough luck.
Nah, you just don’t understand primaries nor do you understand electoralism, and dismissing it at QAnon bullshit because reality disagrees with you just proves me right.