• dhork@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    Why does everyone assume Biden would lose in a debate with Trump? He already beat him at the polls once. Yea, Biden is four years older than last time but so is Trump.

    If anything, if Trump is declared ineligible to run, that’s when Biden needs to worry. Because it’s one thing to be debating someone your own age, and another thing entirely to be debating someone 30 years younger.

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      10 months ago

      It’s not about whether Biden would win or lose a debate. It’s the fact that winning or losing won’t make any difference, because the MAGA crowd will only see the heavily edited and clipped version that is shown on Fox.

      There’s also the worry that agreeing to a debate could be considered a tacit acceptance of Trump’s elligibility. If Biden agrees to debate with Trump, he’s also agreeing that Trump can run for president and deserves to be on the debate floor.

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        10 months ago

        This is a good point… By Biden declining the debate after accepting it for years ago he’s sending a message. That message is that Trump is absolutely not qualified to run for this office.

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      10 months ago

      I just don’t think it would help. The less people see of Trump, the better. Let his madness and instability define him without any opportunity to spread misinformation and lies on a national scale.

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      10 months ago

      Biden pretty handily beat Trump in the 2020 debates. Though conservatives just ran around with clips of Trump running his mouth during the debate and claiming that meant he won.

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      10 months ago

      I think that it’s not people thinking Biden would lose. I don’t see any point in it because the MAGA crowd don’t want to listen to anything Biden says so why even give them any potential ammo?

      It’s basically what Trump is doing now with the Republican primary debates. No one says anything bad about Trump and they just keep attacking each other. Of course if Biden doesn’t debate, some will say Biden is too afraid but just turn it around on them and ask why isn’t Trump at any of the primary debates?

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      10 months ago

      It’s not just whether or not Biden would win.

      It’s “Can Biden and Trump stay coherent standing for 3 hours in an unscripted environment”? Does it matter if Biden wins if the match was predominantly two elders bickering over whether or not we should pull out of Iraq? Both of their ages are a point of concern and the complete lack of live, unscripted, hardball interviews does little to quell that fear.

      Polls have never been this bad for a returning president in decades. Historically support for third party candidates have decreased as election cycles get closer but at the same time, you’ve never had candidates this hated. Third parties are absolutely going to eat up votes from both parties this election year, and a horrid debate performance, even if a win, will make the issue worse.

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      10 months ago

      Win/lose isn’t even a thing in these debates, it’s a meaningless political spectacle which by it’s nature benefits Trump because he is the political embodiment of this.