Top physicist says chatbots are just ‘glorified tape recorders’::Leading theoretical physicist Michio Kaku predicts quantum computers are far more important for solving mankind’s problems.

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    1 year ago

    Okay but LLMs have multiplied my productivity far more than any tape recorder ever could or ever will. The statement is absolute nonsense.

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      Do you imagine that music did not exist before we had the means to record it? Or that it had no effect on the productivity of musicians?

      Vinyl happened before tape but in the early days of computers, tape was what we used to save data and code. Kids TV programmes used to play computer tapes for you to record at home, distributing the code in an incredibly efficient way.

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        Kids TV programmes used to play computer tapes for you to record at home, distributing the code in an incredibly efficient way.

        Could you expand on this? Sounds interesting.

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          They just played the tapes on TV, kinda screechy, computer-y sounds. They’d tell you when to press record on your cassette player before they started. You’d hold it close to the TV speakers until it finished playing, then plug the cassete player in to your computer, and there’d be some simple free game to play. I didn’t believe it would work but it did. I still don’t believe it worked. But it did.

          There must be a clip somewhere on the internet but my search skills are nowhere near good enough to find one.

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          [New comment instead of editing the old so that you see it]

          I managed to find a video of an old skool game loading. That’s what it sounded like when you loaded a program and it’s exactly what they’d play on the TV so you could create your tape.

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            Thank you very much for the effort! I also searched for text or video, but found none.

            I understand now what you previously meant, streaming code via TV.

            That’s what it sounded like when you loaded a program and it’s exactly what they’d play on the TV so you could create your tape.

            Now I have a new confusion: Why would they let the speaker play the bits being processed? It surely was technically possible to load a program into memory without sending anything to the speaker. Or wasn’t it, and it was a technical necessity? Or was it an artistic choice?

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              I assume it was because they used ordinary tape recorders, that people would otherwise use as dictaphones or to play music. I guess there wasn’t a way to transfer the data silently because the technology was designed to play sound? We had to wait for the floppy disk for silent-ish loading. Ish because they click-clacked a lot, but that was moving parts rather than the code itself.

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      Your statement and the original one can both be in sync with another.

      Microsoft Word is just a glorified notepad but it still improves my productivity significantly.

      And everyone will have different uses depending on their needs. Chatgpt has done nothing for my productivity/usually adds work as I have to double check all the nonsensical crap it gives me for example and then correct it.

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        Those are all gross oversimplifications. By the same logic the internet is just a glorified telephone, the computer is a glorified abacus, the telephone is just a glorified messenger pigeon. There are lots of people who don’t understand LLMs and exaggerate its capabilities but dismissing it is also bad.

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        I think describing word processors as glorified notepads would also be extremely misleading, to the extent that I would describe that statement as incorrect.