• Rottcodd@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    See… this is the point at which the whole conservative covid reaction, to me, goes from just weird and unsettling to full-on bug-eyed insane. AND hypocritical.

    Their whole deal with masks and vaccines is that they should have the right to decide for themselves. I think they make dumbass decisions that cause entirely avoidable harm, but okay - I can grant at least some bare semblace of legitimacy to self-determination. I don’t vagree, but at least I can see their underlying logic.

    But banning masks? What the actual fuck? What possible difference can it make in their lives that somebody else is wearing a mask? And what happened to their whole self-determination thing? Do they sincerely believe that nobody should be able to tell them whether or not they have to wear a madk and that they should be able to tell other people whether or not they can? How does that even work inside their brains? What possible logic leads to “I don’t have to do what you say but you DO have to do what I say”?

    Seriously, are they literally insane? I sincerely can’t think of any other explanation. It’s not just people acting in some way other than my preference, but people acting in a way that’s blitheringly irrational, even by their own principles.

    I suspect that when future historians write about this era, they’re going to call it something like The Idiot Age, because to them it will be marked by people inexplicably doing obviously and painfully stupid and irrational things.

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      Their whole deal with masks and vaccines is that they should have the right to decide for themselves.

      Close, that’s what they said they believe. Anyone watching them actually behave during the pandemic knew that anyone wearing a mask was liable to be attacked by these brainless psychos ranting about the “kung flu” or whatever other racist name they had for it merely for wearing a mask in their presence.

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        I wasn’t directly attacked but my friend and I had the same experience in our 60% Trump area.

        We weren’t together when each incident happened, but they’re so similar I’ll describe them together.

        We were just at the checkout: me at a convenience store; my friend at a major grocery store chain.

        So, we couldn’t reasonably move away. We had to stand there to pay for our purchases.

        An old man encroached my space; an old woman encroached my friend’s space. We both politely asked them to step back for social distancing, and they refused.

        I wish I had my friend’s ability to think and speak on his feet. After he checked out, he told the old lady “I asked for you to do something, that cost you nothing. All you had to do was take a few steps back. I hope in the future, if you ask someone the same, they treat you like you did to me.”

        As for me? Even though I just said my request and didn’t respond further, the guy was a huge jerk who tailgated me for several miles in his huge pickup truck. Like headlights in my mirror tailgating… during the day.

        Who tf cares that much? Honestly… just take a few steps back. Doesn’t cost you anything, like my friend said.

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      I mean, businesses like these want their employees to look the same.

      Having some wear masks and some not is jarring for the pearl-clutchers of the world.

      To be honest, if any of you put a little bit of thought into this, you’d come up with some pretty rational conclusions.

      Whether you agree with the policy or not is up to you. But trying to argue they’re ‘literally insane’ is just hyperbole to cover up your lack of understanding and insight into the situation.

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        So that is a reasonable take? They don’t want people to wear masks because they’ll look different? That’s a lot of justification for an absurd corporate mandate.

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            Being in the workforce for 40 years now I do understand how corporations feel.

            Masks help in general. And if an employee who has a cold wants to wear a mask that’s a net benefit for customers and society.

            Maybe I have more faith in the American people to NOT FREAK the fuck out if they walk into somewhere that has a masked worker.

            Probably unreasonable. Ideas of personal choice - until it comes to something where people disagree. Then personal choice gets removed.

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              These businesses care a lot about presentation.

              While it would be nice if people viewed wearing masks in a restaurant as cleaner and more-inviting, that’s just not the case.

              People have evolved to become suspicious of those who cover their faces.

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                I guess it really says something about those people who view masks as an attack on themselves based on your statements

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                  I don’t think viewing someone as suspicious is the same as them attacking you.

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      It’s not a new thing, it’s the slave master’s concept of rights: “It is my right to to take away other people’s rights.”