Seems to me the fear of overloading one instance over another will not happen after all.
But I do hope the Threadiverse can hit 500,000 consistent active users by the end of summer.
Give me that hopium guys! 💉
That’s a good thing. Keep the fediverae alive without overemcumbering servers. That’s what’s so strong about it, we can keep growing without too much costs.
as long as you can still subscribe to those communities on other instances it doesn’t matter.
If everyone already here just stays here, I’d be happy. We’ve already hit a nice place.
Lemmy is not a business, so it doesn’t necessarily need a constant influx of new users. Sustainability is based on user experience, not endless growth.
Edit: actually last sentence kind of dumb. Sustainability based on keeping the servers running and user experience.
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I don’t fully understand the instances, other than it provides the whole idea behind this, being multiple servers, no one master that can run and change and whatnot. But if I join one of these other servers (I’m on world), do I have access to the same things or does it change? My reason for staying on world in spite of some of the hiccups is my subs are here and it’s where I’ve been active.
From my understanding, you can subscribe to & view other communities regardless of the instance they’re hosted in.
I’ve only been using Lemmy for a couple days, since Boost finally shit the bed. My only gripe so far is that there are multiple communities with both the same name and purpose but on different instances.
And that’s good. No more “subreddits” monopoly. If a mod or mod team goes against the will of their users they can just move on another instance without needing to use another name (and it’s easier to find afterward). As a user, you just need to subscribe to these redundant communities (or not if you don’t care about federation but if not why are you on Lemmy) and it will appear in your front-page as if it was one and only community.
Without multiple instances, Lemmy would effectively be more like reddit (one entity controlling the whole thing). If that instance goes down, or it decides you can’t talk about topic X, or it does anything that affects you as a user – you have no option but to love it or leave it.
With multiple instances, if one becomes trouble, you just move to another. You can read and post to other instances from any other federated instance, so you get some freedom in that regard, and you’re not really tied to any one entity (you’re always beholden to the rules of your home instance, but you can also freely instance hop).
The best reddit analogy is probably using subreddits: imagine if one subreddit actually ran the whole site. R/spez one day decided to change the rules on yoiu, and you disagreed-- what option do you have? Well, in that setup, you simply start interacting on other subreddits. Lemmy kind of works this way, but there the subreddits are instances which control your login info, and there are communities within those instances that everyone elsewhere on the site can access.
The related technical advantage is still that no one instance runs the whole federation. Lemmy.world is big (likely because a lot od ex-redditors thought it was the one to switch to), but it doesn’t control the rest of the federation. If it got shut down, for example, users on it would need a new instance, but the federation itself would be exactly as it was.
It’s kind of like grass-roots networking, if that makes sense to you. One could also argue it’s a bit like like bittorrent for forums.
I imagine any time a given server’s quality drops, people will just move to another one. I had login issues for a few days on lemmy.world and started using lemmy.ml.
I think its a good thing, healthy for the ecosystem that there’s not only redundancy where one site having a moment doesn’t kill everyone’s ability to use lemmy, and also provides a clear incentive for individual servers to provide good service.
Were you able to export your list of subscriptions and import into another instance? I thought that would be a feature, but I can’t find it on lemmy.world
It’s not a feature of Lemmy itself yet, though I’ve seen one person attempting a PR and there are issues for it. It will arrive at some point but could be awhile.
I made a tool to do it (subscriptions, blocks, and profile settings) in the meantime: https://github.com/CMahaff/lasim
Threadiverse
Begone
Edit: my bad
You begone noob, it’s been called that since before threads.
noob
I’ll take it. It’s not like I’m trying to pretend otherwise.
it’s been called that since before threads.
Well, to be fair that’s quite a coincidence.
It’s not a coincidence. Threads are a forum thing. This is a thread.
It’s not a coincidence
Yes, it is. The coincidence is in the OP mentioning Threadiverse as if it’s a common term and my misunderstanding by thinking that they’re taking “Threads” and “Fediverse” and blending them together, thinking Meta coined it.
Threads are a forum thing. This is a thread.
No shit - hence why Threads had its name in the first place.
You can downvote me all you want; it won’t make a difference.
I don’t think you quite grasp the concept of a coincidence mate, but what you just described is not it at all.
Btw, I didn’t downvote you until just now, now that I know it festers in your curmudgeony noob soul.
I haven’t fully settled on a “home” instance yet.
I bounce around between Lemmy.world, Beehaw and Kbin the most. As things stabilize with the various software updates and federation between instances gets worked out I will probably settle on one, but I could also see jumping to more niche instances (really hoping a sports-related instance like Fanaticus takes off) being the long term strategy, too.
I’m not using lemmy as much because theres no RES
What features from RES do you miss? Maybe we can get them incorporated into lemmy
Full keyboard navigation (j and k to focus up and down posts, u to go to user profile, c to enter comments…) including toggling expandos, and regex keyword filtering for me.
I created a userscript here https://github.com/vmavromatis/Lemmy-keyboard-navigation maybe it suits your needs for now…
Thanks will take a look!
I miss the tagging of users, the way to turn off css from sites, endless scrolling and that each comment and children would be marked with a color between them. Liftoff has shadowed cards, which helps. The browser experience isn’t great that way.
Have you checked out kbin? It has some of those features, and you can sub to lemmy communities with it. It also allows you to follow users, which lemmy doesn’t seem to do. But you can’t save posts at kbin, which is something I use a lot.
Edit: literally just discovered you can save comments and posts, at least here. I don’t know if that’s new or if I missed it somehow.
I haven’t tried kbin, I’m just getting used to Lemmy but I might give it a try next week.
In a lot of ways, I’m happy to hear this. A lot of communities will thrive without the intervention of a central power.
Some communities will become toxic, and it will be up to the individual to figure out whether that’s for them or not- but at least they have a choice.
/r/fatpeoplehate inspired me to lose 135 LB. It wasn’t a bad subreddit.
Granted /r/coonworld /r/chimpout we’re both…Jesus Christ… but at least even the most vile of people had a voice.
/r/cringeanarchy was fun as hell while it lasted.
A kindred soul. I never got why r/fatpeoplehate was lumped in with the rest of those awful subreddits… the worst part about the subreddit was its name.
I wonder how many people created an alt and just wound up using it more than their original.
I created my Lemmy.world account when Beehaw defederated, and it’s now my main.
What did beehaw defederate from? That site seems pretentious.
They claimed it would be temporary and was to ensure “safety” of their community as other instances have open signups, and apparently the beehaw admin thought there’d be an influx of bots, or excessive posts requiring moderation. It doesn’t seem like that has happened though, and it also doesn’t seem like they’ve re-federated.
Did you just call it the “Threadiverse”?? dafuq?
I think users are jumping over to instances that more fit their personal values. Its why I left lemmy.world and created unilem.org. An instance for no defederation. It might not be for everyone. But i prefer to be able to access everything in one place and do thr moderation/blocking on the user level.
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Question, does it matter? Arent we all part of this universe so it doesnt matter right? Im still sorta confused how all this stuff works.
Distributing evenly prevents a few things:
- Increasing server cost on a single instance host
- Less reliance on a single instance means, the single instance is less likely to fuck over their members (via advertising or data sharing)
- Less likely of a situation where one instance can create a sort of monopoly of Lemmy communities and take them private via defederation, leading everyone to join that singular Lemmy instance to see the content.
I just signed up for a more local instance, but I’ve been looking for an easier way to swap over my subscriptions
I made a tool to do this: https://github.com/CMahaff/lasim
Also handles blocks and profile settings.
FYI if you are on a very small instance you may need to run it twice because of: https://github.com/CMahaff/lasim/issues/13
I made an alt on a smaller instance when all the trouble with lemmy.world was happening, and I was thinking of making the alt my main, but I’m too lazy to port all my subscribed communities over, so this is still where I’m gonna be. I still browse from my alt sometimes, because the feeds are different.
Also gonna throw my option out there: https://github.com/CMahaff/lasim
Handles blocks, subscriptions, and profile settings.
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