• GlitchSir@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    The build system issue is getting out of control. Just look at cmake

    When your build system is a build system for build systems you know something went wrong years ago

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    1 year ago

    Real talk- I agree with this meme as truth.

    The more and more I use CICD tools, the more I see value in scripting out my deployment with shell scripts and Dockerfiles that can be run anywhere, to include within a CICD tool.

    This way, the CICD tool is merely a launch point for the aforementioned deployment scripts, and its only other responsibility is injecting deployment tokens and credentials into the scripts as necessary.

    Anyone else in the same boat as me?

    I’d be curious to hear about projects where my approach would not work, if anyone is willing to share!

    Edit: In no way does my approach to deployment reduce my appreciation for the efforts required to make a CICD pipeline happen. I’m just saying that in my experience, I don’t find most CICD platforms’ features to be necessary.

    • synae[he/him]@lemmy.sdf.org
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      You’re not advocating against CI like the meme seems to be, but rather for CI builds to be runnable on human’s machines and the results should be same/similar as in when running w/in the CI system. Which is what CI folks want anyway.

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      1 year ago

      Honestly, CI is only meaningful on bigger projects (more than 100 man-hours invested in total). So I most often go without.

      But I do see its point.

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    1 year ago

    I know this is a meme, but just in case someone doesn’t actually know. CI saves literally thousands upon thousands of dev hours a year, even for small teams.

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      1 year ago

      Probably also causes lots of hours of maintenance and troubleshooting…but it’s a net gain in the end.

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        1 year ago

        I can’t even imagine not having a ci pipeline anymore. Having more than a single production architecture target complete with test sets, Security audits, linters, multiple languages, multiple hour builds per platform… hundreds to thousands of developers… It’s just not possible to even try to make software at scale without it.