My time on Reddit died simultaneously with Apollo. I’m doing what I can by not giving that place anymore traffic from me.
Found out about Lemmy yesterday. While it’s not there with niche interests at this point, it definitely cures the itch.
You want to stick it to the man? Quit going there altogether people!
Same for me with Boost, and SAME for me with Lemmy lol. I’m using Liftoff now
Which app are using if you don’t mind me asking?
I recommend Voyager, basically a beat for beat recreation of Apollo for Lemmy.
Just using the Lemmy app
stock lemmy app does not exist yet on iOS publicly
My bad, Memmy
all good!
Yeah I feel the same way. I’m on here and it’s working but I also do miss my years and years worth of subs I joined that made my feed perfect to what I liked, especially the smaller ones that I hope make it over here someday. Right now my lemmy feed just mostly feels like meme after meme or some politics post which is not really what I like at all so I may have to spend some time and figure out how to narrow my interests more on here.
That’s definitely the worst part for me too. But if people make the switch here and the user base grows and over time you curate your feed here, it could eventually be that again.
I’m just ready to sacrifice that to say “screw you” to Reddit. Finding this platform has just been a pleasant surprise
This place is a lot better than I expected it would be tbh, and I’ve been here a couple weeks now. It’s encouraging to see.
Reddit is really killing itself with bot mods. Its less tollerant than ever. they will ban all human users wuthin a few months at this pace.
Good
You can get your multireddit and import it to some clients, like voyager/wefwef
I’m lucky that my curated feed was mostly open source coding, AI tech and solar punk so I’ve been able to find even better communities than Reddit had. The less tech adjacent subs will take longer to build but you can see them starting to establish - I guess the best way to help that is to participate in them and to introduce other people to them.
Welcome! You’ve probably seen it around already, but just in case, you can search at lemmyversenet/communities and may turn up some of those niche communities that are just difficult to find otherwise. Ofc, maybe they don’t exist yet, but always worth a look!
if you are on iOS, use Memmy. it’s really close to Apollo functionality :)
there’s also many iOS clients in beta right now too
Now try wefwef it’s like Apollo
Name was changed to Voyager, fyi
My screen time was more than halved when Apollo went down, it’s slowly increasing with wefwef though which is probably bad for me but still fun
If you’re still using Reddit, please be a homie and spread the fediverse gospel
I will. But I do want to say that it’s my personal opinion, that yes, we definitely should grow as a community with more reddit refugees, but I don’t think it’s a bad thing to grow relatively slowly. On the technological side, we need the infrastructure growth to match the user base growth. Maybe even more importantly, I think most of us will agree we want to take the good of reddit with us, but definitely not the toxicity. Copy pasting the whole user base to the fediverse could lead to also copy pasting the culture that exists over there now. The thing I most enjoy on Lemmy is definitely the general vibe over the content for now, and that is pretty special on the Internet.
Every day of people still using Reddit is a day when a portion of humanity’s ability to communicate is controlled by one psychopath.
Also, we don’t necessarily need a big userbase. Just a good active one. More is not necessarily better in my opinion.
Smaller is also much more manageable.
notes to self:
- no, that did not say “hornie”
- check system font settings on this computer
- maybe start a c/keming
also FUCK yeah markdown
I wonder if r/keming used to say “Currently 300 hornie online”
Hallelujah!!
Ok, just went there. My home is full of smaller subs reposting old high-quality stuff. I could even mistake that for good activity if I haven’t seen it already.
Popular is full of useless shit… so no visible impact.
I guess one has to subscribe to the correct subs to see the implosion.
Im still using my custom app patched with my own API key. But it’s slowly not becoming worth it with most of the smaller subs I follow only having 1 or 2 posts in the last week. Opposed to the 2 or 3 posts per day.
They also haven’t actually kicked off third party clients for mods. If you moderate any sub (even just create a private sub now) and the client didn’t purposely kill their own API key (Apollo and RIF did I believe) it will still work even without the patch.
It’s getting pretty bad though. With most people who were truly pro-protest gone, average sentiment is “oh well protest failed let’s get back to normal”. I was pretty heavily downvoted in the Ask Historians meta thread about next steps for suggesting the mods/experts were fairly irreplaceable and they should look to move content off of reddit to their own site.
Dude, tell me more about your custom app.
Take this as an opportunity to talk as much as you want about it. That sounds fascinating.
Request your own API key from Reddit stating you’re an app developer, then use revanced manager to inject that key into any custom Reddit app.
You can actually decompile any android app into smali code which is kind of a readable bytecode. Create an OAuth app on reddit and replace the developer’s API key with your own. Free reddit app with no ads.
Are you having to pay for those API calls?
Are they?
I think it really depends on what subs you are subscribed to, some people are almost noticing nothing at all. Other places are a real dumpster fire. Just went back yesterday to see if my GDPR request had gone through already
GDPR request?
Forcing Reddit, by law, to delete any and all data associated with your account. If you do this, make sure to specify that your request includes all posts and comments as you believe they contain “personally identifiable information” that you do not trust Reddit to keep safe. It forces them to use a lot of resources and kills any reason for you to relapse on your adiggtion
Can non-EU users also demand a GDPR?
starts VPN
I am now an EU user
You can use Power Delete Suite. It’s what I used.
Yesn’t***
https://www.metaverselaw.com/does-gdpr-apply-to-us-citizens/
My guess is if you make a big enough stink, they won’t want to attract the legal ire of any organization.
No. Californians can though https://oag.ca.gov/privacy/ccpa#sectiond
Yeah, I started with this. I’ll do a GDPR after they reply to the CCPA. Gatta maximize that shit.
In a general sense, GDPR is:
“The General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR), under Article 15, gives individuals the right to request a copy of any of their personal data which are being ‘processed’ (i.e. used in any way) by ‘controllers’ (i.e. those who decide how and why data are processed), as well as other relevant information (as detailed below). These requests are often referred to as ‘data subject access requests’, or ‘access requests’.”
It does seem to include your right to delete the data, but that’s not what most of us did.
It’s a European law which forces companies to delete your data if requested. They are probably deleting heir account.
Ah I did that. Didn’t know it was called that tho
Deleting your account isn’t the same as using a GDPA request. If you deleted your account, you should follow up: https://www.reddit.com/settings/data-request
I think that’s the right link? I’m not logged in… You might not even be able to request anything if you can’t log in, so try email. Make them work for it!
I did the data request, I just didn’t know it was called GDPR request
I think the low-effort subs are fine-ish, but the ones that took any actual effort to moderate are going seriously downhill.
It’s almost as if all the 3rd party tools and apps that mods used to automate much of the suck out of moderating just stopped working one day… hmmm…
Unfortunately a lot of the game communities are not budging. I guess I shouldn’t have expected more from people that pre-order everything that hits the market.
You mean Blizzard? I didn’t even check… But I bet they are one of them. Fuck Blizzard. They’d sell their mothers into sexual slavery if it meant a few more dollars in profit.
Mine hasn’t still. I find that pretty ridiculous… Pretty soon they’ll be breaking the law.
Some smaller niche subreddits have been fractured pretty bad. If you’re someone who mainly used Reddit for hobbies and such, you’d notice more than somebody who just lurks the default subs.
Found the actual Spez in this thread.
We really already doing this? Really about to start the whole “I’m going to insult you because you have a different opinion than me, and I’m not actually going to contribute to the conversation at all” shit?
Leave that dumb shit on Reddit.
My guy, it was meant as a joke…we’re in the shitposting community, calm down.
I really miss my community there 🥲It feels like breaking up with a shitty boyfriend, but his grandma was really nice to you.
Well put!
I don’t “like” that it got this bad, but I do like that the worse things get, the more we can collectively organize and pressure reform to fix these things.
It’d be great to see a true social revolution take place in my lifetime. Social for the sake of social, not controlled by a single corporation with a business model that’s designed to exploit its users.
I just checked it out, because of your claim, but found it to look just like it always did. r/all is still the same, my subsribed subs are still the same. Still a lot of people posting content, asking questions, sharing stories. Not sure in what kind of bubble you live :/
I just checked it out. LOL no they aren’t. Reddit is still thriving.
yeah, it’s some pretty serious copium to think reddit was massively affected by the protests. Sadly, they were not
but all I can do is leave and enjoy lemmy so fuck em
Same. One vote may not be much but I’m not the only one who nuked a decade old account and will not be returning.
100% same
Several subs that I frequented are gone. The biggest pain to me is probably caused by the loss of Transcribers for Reddit. The group behind it basically disbanded at the end of june.
I wouldn’t call reddit thriving given that its flagship r/iama is now completely dead as a result of the mods packing up and saying that they will no longer do the work of verification or soliciting celebrities anymore. One of the biggest draws to the site historically as well as consistently producing positive media.
Yeah so there is still a lot of activity. However, >2000 subs are still dark, 18 others have gone full john oliver and many more are less moderated than before. BotDefense are leaving. So it’s definitely not that nothing out of the ordinary is going on, although I think that is exactly experience that reddit as a company tries to give you when you visit the site.
Eitherway, I am a lemming now and very happy to be here and not there.
Exactly! Last I checked, sure there was a lot of activity BUT as you said, many subs are still dark. The major subs that reopened with new moderation have definitely had a major dip (imo) in quality. I was still seeing John Oliver everywhere. They did use quite a few users, maybe not enough for them to flinch too hard but, how active were those users? I consider my old account there a “power comment account” I rarely posted but was extremely active in the threads, spending hours each day replying to comments of my inbox, so much so that I rarely even viewed actual content. Makes me wonder, how many accounts like mine did they lose? Many just lurked. The comment sections were fueled by active commenters and imo it wouldn’t take losing too many like me for the threads to take a noticeable hit.
Anyway I don’t care much about how it is over there rn, just glad I have this place so I don’t have to support that platform in any way. Plus now that I’ve found a cool app, jerboa or whatever it’s quite enjoyable! Connect and liftoff are also great but my phone doesn’t play well with many apps.
I occasionally open RIF just to see if it’s still working which it is but it doesn’t let me login, meaning I can only access the front page of /r/all and man, it is abysmal. The content there doesn’t even motivate me to stay there any longer than for a quick glance, lol. Tbf, if I open old.reddit on PC while logged in (which I now almost never do and I haven’t posted anything there since June 31), it is better but it still doesn’t feel completely the same. Plenty of subs still missing, some other that I didn’t use to see much are now more present instead, and then there’s /r/videos which still requires profanity in titles but now also, hilariously, only allows text transcripts of videos with no link to them.
only allows text transcripts of videos with no link to them
That was my favorite protest twist. I’ve only checked back to see that my ~2000 comments remained edited/deleted (they are). Otherwise, I am fine moving away just as I did with Digg. It’s a new experience and it’s just fine. I do agree that the niche subs are probably what keep drawing folks back there. It’ll take time to curate those elsewhere.
I had no idea /r/videos was doing that. Hilarious.
Yeah, I’m happy to be here too. Here’s to the future 🥂
Yup. Just like Spez predicted. The site is maybe less popular, but it will survive. The protests will die off eventually. The Reddit clones will never be as popular and active as Reddit once was. Maybe eventually the investers and advertisers will return, and it will be seen in hindsight as a smart move. The quality of the content may take a drop, but it was a calculated risk of making it more profitable.
It was a pretty safe bet. Most of the people on this planet don’t give a shit about principles or corporate hostilities so long as they get what they want.
It drives me nuts!
The Reddit clones will never be as popular and active as Reddit once was.
They used to say the same kind of things about Digg.
The real problem was always a lack of alternatives imo. A “protest” can’t work on the website you’re literally using. What should have happened is those people all moved to another platform, but there isn’t one. There isn’t one canonical alternative to reddit, so they had to “protest” there.
I mean, a priest didn’t have to leave the platform if it hits the ad revenue, which things like going NSFW have reportedly done.
Ironically enough, these Reddit clone instances are now obsolete ghost towns. The ”protest” failed and most people don’t want to post on knockoff Reddit when the real thing is right there. The more focused instances will survive with a small, dedicated userbase, but there’s zero chance any of these will take Reddit’s place. The Beehaw losers wanted so badly to be the new Reddit too, lmao.
Oooh, there are Reddit clones? I’d love to check one out! Surely if they’re cloning code or outright copying something proprietary, they’d get shut down immediately though right?
You’re on one right now. Don’t know if you’re joking or not, but no idea how anyone could get the idea from my comment that it was about instances that literally clone Reddit.
Content aggregators existed before reddit and they’ll continue to exist after. A community for shitposts is not unique to reddit.
This. Facebook has heaps of meme posting groups with millions of members.
I only briefly browse old.reddit, my mobile usage is zero now Apollo is dead.
Lemmy is okay but it’s kind of a chicken and egg, less content means less users, but less users means less content.
It also doesn’t help that users are split between instances, so Firefox on lemmy.world will have different content/users than Firefox on lemmy.ml.
I can see that not driving people away but confusing people that aren’t massively tech savvy.
You can browse all across both instances though since they are federated.
Yeah, I know that, but on Reddit you could go to /r/Firefox and be almost guaranteed that that was the main place that people interested in Firefox would congregate. If you started scrolling, you’d see pretty much everything that anyone posted. For bigger subs there generally was one place to go to find that content.
While here, I could be on .world and see some stuff, but then I’d have to go to .ml or some other instance to see other stuff. Then you’ve got almost duplicate posts on different instances.
It’s just kind of messy. You can’t be on .world Firefox community and also see posts from the many other Firefox communities on the other instances, at least if you can I don’t know how you do it.
Sure, you can view all and see everything from everywhere, but that’s literally everything from everywhere, not just Firefox related stuff.
Don’t get me wrong, I like it here, and it’s good to have a potential viable alternative to Reddit. I’m just not sure how it’s going to catch on with Joe Public unless there is a way to tie the same/similar communities from different instances into the one view while still keeping them separate.
Major software foundations like Mozilla, and other large institutions, should be hosting their own instance and have official communities. Even on silos like Reddit, you’d have several alternate subs for the same topic. Before multis were a thing, it was in the same boat.
I would like to see instance features like “see this story in x other communities” links for reposted link posts though.
This would be awesome. I followed nws on Twitter for my local area and wish they would migrate elsewhere, esp now that you have to log in. I follow via rss now but am not sure if or when that will be taken away.
It would be nice if there was a way to group communities across instances so you can view them all at the same time. I would love to create an “Android” group that has all the different Android, Google and Google Pixel communities on one page.
If you find such a thing, mind replying here? I want the exact same thing.
I see what you’re saying, yeah you have to subscribe to the different instances of it which isn’t very intuitive if you don’t know you need to do that.
I think some of the app developers are working on solutions or multi subscribe though for communities.
It doesn’t help that Firefox will still be at different places with different contents. They should do something about user experience. It’s very confusing for non tech savvy people.
I can see that not driving people away but confusing people that aren’t massively tech savvy.
This is a disadvantage early, but it also weeds out a lot of the critical mass ignorance and a lot of the people who are unwilling to make any effort to think critically. I’m really looking forward to how it grows. The more popular it gets the more the pressure will be to have it be user friendly. Right now it feels like reddit from about a decade ago.
That’s like saying you signed up on both GMail and Yahoo Mail so you can get email from both Google and Yahoo users. I don’t understand why federation is such a difficult concept for people.
But you send email to specific people/groups of people. You don’t generally browse for email.
The split instance thing is actually great, if you don’t like a site that’s fedded with lemmy.world then you can just find one that blocks it- or make one yourself and put your communities there.
You can choose more freely your subscriptions and info, not based in a unique-centralized and biased source, but from a community of servers which resist to the monopoly of the internet.
yeah, this is not true. some subs are gone. there are still tons of people there. HOWEVER, the level of shitheadedness is increasing across all subs, even ones that were once relatively free of it. I’m seeing fewer thoughtful responses and more of the kind of reactionary kneejerk bullshit you expect from the front page subs or youtube comments or something. As ever, niche content remains your best bet, but I’m noticing a sharp decline in quality. This has been happening for a long time now, but this event has certainly been a(nother) tipping point. People have constantly compared reddit to digg in this instance, implying that the same kind of replacement is nigh… but I don’t know. We are kind of in uncharted territory on this. In the earlier days of the www there was always a new thing, but the Digg collapse happened (or started happening) like 15 years ago, the internet is an entirely different beast now. I don’t know what’s going to happen with reddit, but I’m on permanent lurker status over there until I suss it out.
I agree with everything you said, but I have a few additions that I’ve noticed in terms of Reddit going downhill. I’m seeing a ton of anti-copium in this thread, but ngl, I Reddit has gotten a LOT worse for me as a whole as someone that uses it regularly. it’s the reason I came here, even though I actually didn’t stick with Lemmy originally after the blackout (due to lack of content).
-Like you said, shitheadedness has gone up
-Reposts and unserious posts have gone up (replacing actual interesting and varied content, which has gone down)
-Content farming has gone up (related to the above point)
-“Subtle” advertisement like astroturfing has gone up (once again, reducing visibility of any actual worthwhile posts)
-The NSFW side of reddit is legit worthless at this point.
In addition the the app being unusable and the APIs no longer allowing for third party apps. I’m a bit surprised there are so many people in this thread that claim not to have noticed. Like, Reddit has legitimately turned into IFunny quality material seemingly overnight from my perspective. I’m not sure how people could not notice, but maybe I just use it differently from others.
This may not affect the shareholders at the end of the day since it will probably just turn into a low quality garbage machine that still makes money, but from an actual social media perspective I think there will be a significant number of others like me who need to find a new home that’s not full of shit content.
I’ve only been on there to search for specific things and I’ve noticed a lot more spam in the search results.
Content is slowing drastically, r/all isn’t updating for most of the day from low engagement, reddit uses a differential for upvotes which doesn’t reflect total users well.
I agree, I studied abroad with a 12 hour difference and during the day there, when I browsed Reddit, most of the posts were lower quality because most people were asleep. (Sorry euro peeps)
It’s when the evening came that the posts picked up quality and engaged me.
Now that I’m stateside, I feel like Reddit posters are completely and perpetually asleep (or just gone).
It’s really wild to see reposts over and over. Like some Redditbot constantly spamming the same thing hoping to get some traction going for conversation.
Ahahahah we know.
Best regards,
Yurop
reddit uses a differential for upvotes
ELI5? I’m genuinely interested - just wonder what this means? I’d always assumed +1 on a post meant 1 user clicking the “upvote” button.
That was changed years ago
Not sure what this place will evolve in to but it seems like a nice replacement for Reddit. There is a lot of work to be done for people to re-build the communities and transfer the information but if enough people buy in to it… years down the road this could be the place to be.
I agree, Rome wasn’t build in a day, it takes consistent effort to create a thriving community.
We just need to fortify against the invading “Barbarian Hordes” (I mean Zuccs and Eloy)
I go on for the worldnews & the uk subs they don’t seem to be impacted too much but I’ve not seen the need since the uptick in traffic on lemmy
To be honest, when I was back there yesterday I missed Lemmy. I either had forgotten about the amount of toxicity that is over there, or it has gotten worse because of all of the issues.
or it has gotten worse because of all of the
issuesbots trying to direct a narrative.I gotchu.
Thanks, autocorrect must have gotten me again
Yeah it feels like a lot of the moderate voices jumped to lemmy or other alternatives which has allowed the toxic users to surge.
Also mods largely abandoned their posts so toxic stuff is ever more now.
I mean, the toxicity is definitely noticeably higher. I’d bet good money that it’s a direct result of tons of mods just going “fuck this noise” after having basically all of their 3rd party moderation tools turned off.
I uninstalled it. I can’t stand the “r/Hegetsus” promoted religious ads. It said it could not be blocked.
He get sus
