• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    I don’t think there’s any ‘about’ here. It absolutely has broken down. And, if Israel has anything to say about it, it will never recover. Israel has gone from apartheid to genocide, within living memory (there are very few left alive, but still living memory) of the genocide the founders of Israel went through themselves.

    Every single Israeli involved in this war grew up hearing about the genocide of Jews and they learned nothing.

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      11 months ago

      Worth noting that the founders of israel are very specifically not the folks that endured the Holocaust.

      Holocaust survivor families in Israel endure disproportionate risk of crippling poverty, having their languages banned because yiddish sephardi and other historical jewish languages are seen as low class compared to hebrew, and most shocking to me when I found out, being called ‘Soap’ by other jews in Israel.

      Israel isn’t the state of refuge, it’s the state of that cousin who sees you get racially profiled and uses it to catapult their own online celebrity status.

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        There are also the two terrorist organization that are the base for the IDF, they literally massacre villages and created a resort on top of it.

        And the arab jew, specially the Yemenian Jew, who their kids got taken from them when they arrive to Isreal.

        And even last year or the year before black jew from Ethiopia got their status revoked or something.

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      11 months ago

      Israel mistreats and abuse Holocaust survivors too. Fascism has no good side.

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      11 months ago

      Israel has gone from apartheid to genocide, within living memory (there are very few left alive, but still living memory) of the genocide the founders of Israel went through themselves.

      Israel has been genocidal from the start. It’s just faster now; in 1949 there was the Nakba and then there was the whole settlement business.

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            11 months ago

            Ya got the date wrong. Nakba happened in 1948 when multiple Arabic nations declared war on Israel after they announced their independence.

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              11 months ago

              Setting aside the legitimacy of Israel as a state, why does that mean they get to ethnically cleanse half the Palestinian population?

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                  11 months ago

                  That’s the implication, at least. Because “they declared war first so they deserved it” is a popular position among Zionists.

                  If that’s not what you meant, then while the war was declared in 1948, the Nakba started in earnest when Israel started beating back the Arab states in 1949.

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                    11 months ago

                    If you declare war and lose, you can’t just go “lol oopsie we didn’t really mean it” and expect nothing to happen. When has the loser in any war not experienced repercussions?