• the_q@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Tell us your innocuous comment and we’ll tell you if we agree. Otherwise don’t reply.

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      11 months ago

      It’s not one comment like I said. It’s at least 50% of the comments I make, completely harmless.

      Sometimes I might say things like “This is really messed up” and it gets deleted. Or often it’s not even that, like just random sentences. I literally can’t think of examples because it happens so often. As many other people can attest to, their account often seems to be unable to comment completely innocuous things while other accounts are able to. If you have supreme faith in AI and YouTube auto-moderation, then you might say “Whatever is happening, you deserve it.” Which seems to be the prevailing view here, sadly.

      But I just ask you to think a bit more compassionately and not assume the worst of people. There are many cases of similar situations that prove that there are completely innocent people having their comments removed for no reason. I’m thinking I might have to find one and post it here so people believe me.

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        11 months ago

        See what I mean? I provide examples and no one cares. Just more downvotes. Just really toxic behaviour here. You are probably the ones who deserve to have your comments deleted more than me.

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          11 months ago

          First, it’s the responsibility of channel owners to delete comments. They can use an automod from Youtube itself, which is quite bad and often doesn’t delete comments that should be deleted.

          So many channel owners use open source tools that are more capable and/or do manual moderation. And they do use banlists that automatically delete all comments by users on the banlist. Considering that you admitted that 50% of your comments are problematic and worth being deleted, you probably already are on many of these banlists.

          Second, you didn’t provide examples (plural), but only one example: “That’s really messed up”. You didn’t provide any context. And depending on the context, this comment could be totally not ok. E.g.: “Poor people have a right to live” - “That’s totally messed up”.

          And third: By your own admission, 50% of your comments are bad and deserve to be banned. Looking at your comment history, that’s a very favourable estimate. That is toxic behaviour and you don’t get any pitty points for being sad that you get blocked.

          If you don’t want to be blocked, try to keep your toxic shitposting closer to 0% and not at 50%.

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            11 months ago

            Why do you choose to assume the worst and not believe people? I didn’t say 50% of my comments are problematic and worth deleting. I said 50% GET deleted unfairly. You are putting supreme faith in the YouTube moderation system and assuming that it doesn’t make mistakes when it clearly does. Unlike other people’s comments which deserve to be removed but aren’t, nothing I’m saying is problematic at all.

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            11 months ago

            I don’t know why that would be but it only happens on certain, random comments. Sometimes it’s if I mention a brand or company or institution of some kind, without any criticism or anything, a mainstream company, other times just completely random stuff that’s not even referencing anything in particular. Shadow deletion I guess, but I have no idea why.

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              11 months ago

              As other people have said, you have to show us your posting history. Not summarizations of it, not characterizations of it, we have to see the literal literal text that’s causing the issue. Otherwise we can’t help you

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                11 months ago

                You can, you just don’t want to. What is stopping you from helping me? At least be honest. If you had a solution for an alternative text script that worked, you could just provide it. I did my best to give examples already

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                  11 months ago

                  None of your examples were direct text quotes so we could see what was triggering the algorithm.

                  I suspect what you consider common sense, and normal, is being flagged as offensive and off topic in the discussion. Because you refused to provide direct quotes That’s the most reasonable deduction for your readers to take away.

                  But sure I’ll give you good advice:

                  Use a large language model, like chat GPT, and have it form a comment, that is both helpful, supportive, thoughtful, engaging. Based on the thesis you want to convey.

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                    11 months ago

                    That is, no matter what I say, you wouldn’t consider alternate text scripts regardless and would just try to find other ways to avoid comments getting deleted, which I know won’t work because it’s just like every few comments gets deleted for no reason and they’re all different kinds of comments. They can be helpful, supportive, thoughtful and engaging, and still get removed.

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                    11 months ago

                    So you have no intention of helping me find a text script that would work under any situation, even when random comments are getting deleted? I’m just trying to understand what you’re saying.

                    ChatGPT wouldn’t work because random comments get deleted all the time, there’s no reason to think that auto generated ones wouldn’t either. There seems to be no identifiable pattern to why certain comments get deleted.

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                    11 months ago

                    I appreciate if you’re genuinely trying to help. But it seems like you’re just trying focus on other things to avoid actually answering what I’m asking, which is about alternate scripts, which I know is the only solution to my particular problem.