• dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    11 months ago

    If a gun is a tool, why is there no right to bear tools? Because guns are actively deadly and used to kill people. In the 1700s, that would have had a different societal context, as the colonies were tumultuous and had a rocky relationship not only with Britain but with each other. But in the 2020s, they’re just used to commit murder. You rarely ever hear about the so-called “good guy with a gun” and you hear a hell of a lot about entire classrooms of slain children. Rights are a man made invention and aren’t actually real. “Giving up rights is never the answer to any problem” is a sentence you made up and could easily be debated.

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      11 months ago

      If a gun is a tool, why is there no right to bear tools

      I’d say two reasons – one, because there are no organized successful efforts to ban tools like saws and hammers. And the other is that saws are not a fundamental means of personal protection.

      But in the 2020s, they’re just used to commit murder.

      Guns are used for protection of homes, for sport, for hunting for food, and some people just thing they’re really cool.

      You rarely ever hear about the so-called “good guy with a gun” and you hear a hell of a lot about entire classrooms of slain children.

      You hear what is profitable to show you. You’re not hearing about a great many smaller events involving guns.

      “Giving up rights is never the answer to any problem” is a sentence you made up and could easily be debated.

      Just taking your argument a bit further, if you’re ok with this, do you think a dictator is OK so long as they keep you safe? Why or why not?

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      11 months ago

      Taking away guns does nothing for the anger people have when they want to kill another. They will just resort to other lethal tools.

      What you hear about, comes from what you’re listening to. Traditional news doesn’t cover many defensive uses because it doesn’t generate as many views as a mass shooting. “If it bleeds, it leads” has been the motto of news organizations for decades. Look to other spaces and you’ll hear stories of people defending their home, business, etc. Colion Noir on YouTube has done some really interesting interviews with people doing that in the last couple of weeks. The FBI stats had something like 3-5 million defensive gun uses a year in the US. When seconds matter, the police are minutes away

      Ban guns and who is left with them? The government and criminals. Do you trust them for all eternity?

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      11 months ago

      You rarely ever hear about the so-called “good guy with a gun” and you hear a hell of a lot about entire classrooms of slain children.

      Media bias. If it bleeds it leads, if it’s scary it gets ratings, and tragedies involving children draw even more attention.

      Hell let’s try this, without looking it up: How many homicides do you think happen in a year in the US? How many of those do you think happen with rifles (since those tend to be the target of “assault weapon” legislation)?

      How many people do you think have been killed in public mass shootings (defined as a shooting with more than three casualties, that did not wholly take place in a single private residence, and was not secondary to some other crime - aka Columbine/Aurora/Sandy Hook style shootings, as opposed to something like gang violence or robberies gone wrong), between August 1966 and May 2021?

      If a gun is a tool, why is there no right to bear tools?

      Because no one has historically tried to de-tool the populace, so one hasn’t been needed. Assault the right to repair a bit harder and maybe we’ll get there.