• Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works
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      11 months ago

      It’s so bad. I have one because it was free. Firefox alone makes it max out, stutter, and lag on a 8GB model.

      My laptop from 10 years ago had 16GB… I don’t know wtf is going on with this. ARM does not make it better, Apple. Like, seriously, fuck you.

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        Most amazing thing Apple managed to do is convince fans that is how computers should behave and that’s the best there is and everything else is worse in comparison.

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      11 months ago

      I mean… I know dae Apple bad, but yeah… an 8GB RAM mac performs better than a 16GB Windows machine.

      Linux on the other hand, nah.

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          Lawl I work in tech, and your comment (which lacks any sort of meaningful substance) is wrong and hilarious.

          You have what? A PC? A Mac? An emac? Linux? A phone? How much RAM in each? What processor? Are they running on SSDs? What’s wrong?

          Ehhhh I’m done responding to children this morning. Some of the worst kinds of redditors came over, and I think you’re that kind of Redditor.

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        Came here to say this. I know folks want to hate on Apple, and I do think that 16GB should ship in every Pro monikered machine, but 8GB of RAM in the M series packages is not the same as two 4GB DDR4/DDR5 RAM sticks in your laptop or desktop Windows machine. The hardware architecture inherently uses the RAM more efficiently, as does the OS written to target this hardware.

        But, again, Apple should up the base RAM.

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          11 months ago

          This is emphatically wrong. So wrong I’m wincing… Why on earth do you believe this? I use a 8gb m1 daily and it is utter trash.

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            11 months ago

            What are you on about? Somewhere else you said that Firefox alone causes “your” 8gb Mac to stutter.

            That’s bull.

            My personal Mac is a 32GB Macbook Pro, but we have an 8GB M1 iMac in our house that I actually use frequently. We picked it up as an open box item at Best Buy about a month after it came out. Just a couple of weeks ago I edited a wedding video on it when I’d accidentally left my Macbook at a friends house about an hour away. Final Cut handled three streams of 4k video just fine on 8GB. We are constantly using it as the primary slicer for files for our 3D printer. My kids run games on it using both Dolphin and Wine without issues.

            And I’m not the only person who has done these things. There are people all over YouTube (especially two years ago) who were benchmarking and using the entry level M1 Macs for things just like this without the issues you are describing.

            Just one very early example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUXZBVLFNfY

            If you genuinely can’t even run Firefox without performance issues there’s something wrong with your machine specifically.

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          16GB abso should be minimum for a PRO model, full agree there.

          It’s just so funny to me how many people are like 8GB IS SO SLOW AND BAD AND UNUSABLE which is… not even really true for Windows. I have found four different people inexpensive 8GB Windows machines for daily use.

          But OSX is so efficient with RAM, it’s completely usable for even more intensive things.

          Name a model “pro”? Just fuckin put 16GB in it lawl

          My 2011 MBP has 16GB and a SSD.

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            Wtf?! Who buys a 8 gb windows machine in 2023? Really… Who?! My TEN YEAR OLD laptop that died last month was 16gb. WHY would anyone ever even SELL a 8gb model in 2023?

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              Idk all of them were under 400USD, have i3-i5s, and have solid state drives. THEY RUN FINE.

              How the fuck are you getting so worked up about quantity of RAM in laptops for old people?

              Are you a child?

              How the FUCK is 16GB RAM going to benefit gramps’ CRAIGSLIST BROWSING, or SORTING PHOTOGRAPHS?

              How are you so fucking worked up about this? You’re an insane person with zero worldview