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    Isn’t it interesting that tons of people own guns in America and DON’T shoot people? Or the fact that we had crazy people and assault weapons previously without mass shootings.

    Looking at these issues as if they’re either-or is ridiculous. Of course you’re going to need a multivariate approach. You’re not going to get rid of the guns, and you’re not going to get rid of crazy people. We need to address gun laws, mental health laws, and societal collapse overall. There’s no singular approach that will fix everything.

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          ah the fucking horseshoeit theory.

          no you don’t, the only purpose of guns is to kill someone, that is not very respectful of their bodily autonomy, is it?

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            You’re stopping short on the “kill all landlords” scale, there

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            the only purpose of guns is to kill someone, that is not very respectful of their bodily autonomy, is it?

            Yes, if they aren’t respecting your rights, they have forfeited theirs

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            Do a search to find out who said the following:

            “Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary.”

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          Jesus Christ… Where’s the humanity? They called you a pro-gun weirdo lemming (reddit ≈ redditor; lemmy ≈ lemming) and nowhere did they state or even suggest that you were subhuman. Suggesting someone might deserve an active shooter? Nah man, fuck you all the way to Pluto and back.

          Btw, I actually agreed with your original message. It’s your response to the comment that I’m criticising.

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            New to Lemmy. Don’t call me a lemming. The connotations are insulting.

            Also if you dismiss my perfectly cogent argument as being from a weird pro gun nut…then fuck you go die in a fire, you’re not here to discuss you’re here to insult. In which case if you wanna get nuts, let’s get nuts. I hope the baby Jesus pisses on their corpse

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              You won’t get real far with an attitude like this. Tit for tat and turned up to 1000. You’re clearly very defensive over being called anything and still need to figure out who exactly you think you are. If some simple name calling (“lemming”) is enough to make you fly inyo attack mode like that and wish an active shooter on someone, you’ve still got a very long way to go.

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                Not defensive, dismissive. Simple prisoner’s dilemma. I start off nice. If you’re not nice back, then die in a fire.

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              Lemming, because you’re on lemmy?People on reddit are called redditors, no? People making content on YouTube are called YouTubers. People who stream are called streamers. I’m sure there are more.

              I could see the “weirdo” part being offensive, but I’m confused why you’re upset about the lemming part. This is on lemmy. We are all lemmings, technically.

              It would be like using discord and then getting upset with someone for calling you a discord user.

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              a pro gun weirdo lemming.

              If that’s how he’s gonna talk to me I’ll talk shit back.

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                We are all lemmings here. Lemming is colloquial slang for a person who uses Lemmy. That’s all. I think you replied to yourself, btw.

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                  He still called me a pro gun weirdo for saying you’re not going to be able to disarm America. If that’s the level of discourse, then America deserves school shooters.

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                    I think you are being a bit overblown about being called a pro gun weirdo on a random internet forum. FWIW, I thought your previous comment was completely reasonable, and do not see you as a pro gun weirdo at all. I dont even think thats that much of an insult, I know people who would wear that as a badge. I agree that the reality is that America is not going to get rid of them anytime soon. Just don’t take random comments on the internet so personally. They don’t know anything about you and vice versa. They could be a little kid for all you know.

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      Just wipe out the guns and no more school shootings, stupid.

      No annual school shooting is Indonesia, Malaysia, Japan, China, Hongkong, Australia and people like you still defend it.

      So retarded view. Go more left till nothing’s right.

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          Sign the law, order everyone to surrender or face imprisonment. See, that is easy.

          So many excuses thrown around.

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                Are you that naive? I am saying that is an inevitability.

                When people refuse to surrender weapons, what do you suppose the step after that is? Arresting someone for not turning in their weapon; which will lead to several violent encounters. This will create additional loss of life, and I thought that was the problem we need to solve.

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                  Then do it. Few losses here and there than perpetual cycle of deaths, naive guy.

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                    I’m not going to go around collecting weapons from people door to door, and it’s beyond fucked up to try to force someone else to do that. Anyone that suggests for someone else to put their life in danger should be compelled to do the same. You sound like a fucking psycho.