As computer programmers, our code runs on a wide variety of machines. From 2TB of RAM dual-EPYC servers with 128+ cores/256 hardware threads, to tiny single-core Arduinos running at 4MHz and 4kB of RAM.

While hobbyists and programmers around the world have become enamored with Arduinos, ESP32, STM32 Pills, and Rasp. Pi SBCsā€¦ thereā€™s a noticeable gap in the typical hobbyistā€™s repertoire that should be looked at more carefully. This gap is the entry-level MPU market, perhaps best represented by Microchipā€™s SAM9x60, though STMā€™s STM32MP1, NXP i.MX ULL, and TIā€™s AM355x chips tightly compete in this space.

I hope to muse upon this category of processors, why its unpopular butā€¦ why maybe today, you should give it a closer look.

Impedance-controlled 6-layer PCBs USED to be too complex for a hobbyistā€¦ but theyā€™re accessible today

This sectionā€™s title says it all. Typical MPUs require PCB complexity thatā€¦ at least 10 years ago, was well beyond a hobbyistā€™s means. In the 2010-era of the fledgling ā€œMakerā€ movement, 2-layer PCBs were the most complex you could hope for. Not just from a manufacturing perspective, but also from a software perspective. EagleCAD just didnā€™t support more layers, and no manufacturer catered to hobbyists to make anything more complex. Paying for $500 NRE fees each time you setup a board just wasnā€™t good on a hobbyistā€™s budget.

But today, OSHPark offers 6-layer boards (https://docs.oshpark.com/services/six-layer/) at reasonable prices, with tolerances specified for their dielectric (and therefore, impedance-controlled boards are a thing). Furthermore, KiCAD 7+ is more than usable today, meaning we have free OSS software that can lay out delay-matched PCB traces, with online libraries like UltraLibrarian, offering KiCAD Footprints and Symbols sponsored by Microchip/Ti/etc. etc. Thereā€™s also DKRedā€™s 4-layer service, JLCPCBā€™s services from China and plenty of competitors around the world that can take your 6-layer+ gerbers and give you a good board.

We live in a new era where hobbyists have access to far more complexity and can feasibly build a bigger electronics project than you ever dreamed before.

The classic team: Arduino and Rasp. Piā€¦

Arduino and Rasp. Pi stick together like peanut butter and jelly. Theyā€™re a barbell strategy providing the user with a low-cost, cheap, easy-to-customize chip (ATMega328p and other Arduino-level chips) operating at single-digit mW of powerā€¦ with a large suite of analog-sensors and low latency and simplicity.

While Rasp. Pi offers Linux-level compute solutions, ā€œgrown upā€ C++ programs, Python, server-level compute. Albeit at the 6W (for Rasp. Pi 4) or beyond, so pushing the laptop-level power consumption. Butā€¦ that gives us a good team that handles a lot of problems cheaply and effectively.

Orā€¦ is it? This barbell strategy is popular for good reasons from a problem-solving perspective, but as soon as any power and/or energy constraint comes up, its hopelessly defeated. Intermediate devices, such as the ESP32 have popped up as a ā€œmore powerful Arduinoā€, so to speak, providing more services (WiFi / Bluetooth, RAM and compute-power) than an Arduino can deliver, but is still far less than what Rasp. Pi programmers are used to.

What does a typical programmer want?

SAM9x60: ARMv5 at 600MHz, 128MB DDR2, Linux 6.1.x, dual-Ethernet 10/100, USB in 28mm x 28mm

When Rasp. Pi launched a bit over 10 years ago with 256 MB and a 700MHz processor and full Linux support, it set off a wave of hobbyists to experiment with the platform. Unfortunately, Rasp. Pi has left this ā€œtierā€ of compute power, chasing the impossible dream of competing with Laptops / Desktops. IMO, the original Rasp. Pi 1 hit a niche and should have stuck with that platform.

This SAM9x60D1G-I/LZB SOM module is a mouthful to say. But at 28mm x 28mm its roughly the same size as a US Quarter. Butā€¦ at $60 it sounds like a bad value. Okay, it is a bad value, but stick with me here, this represents far more than you might think.

SAM9x60 chip is fully open source, and fully documented at https://linux4sam.org. You get a full builtroot environment, a fully documented stage1, stage2, and stage3 (UBoot) bootloader. You get all 2000+ pages of documentation. You get PCB layouts, you get fully open source Linux drivers and kernel modules. You get the full ā€œmakeā€ available from Microchipā€™s github. The openness to this chip is insane, especially if youā€™re used to Rasp. Pi.

And perhaps most importantly: SAM9x60ā€™s reference design fits on 4-layer boards. (This is an INCREDIBLE feat of engineering. Microchip has spent a lot of effort simplifying this 233-BGA chip and trying to get it onto the simplest means possible). Note however, that Iā€™d personally only be comfortable with a 6-layer design here. (SAM9x60ā€™s reference design is signal/ground/power/signal stackup, which is frowned upon by modern PCB theory. signal/ground/power/signal/ground/signal would be a superior stackupā€¦ and 6-layers is cheap/available today anyway, so might as well go for 6-layers). In any case, the 4-layer demonstration reference board (https://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/en/Appnotes/AN_3310_Connecting-SDR-and-DDR-Memories-to-SAM9X60_00003310a.pdf) is far more documentation and discussion than youā€™d ever hope to be released by the Rasp. Pi group. The openness to this platform is like night-and-day.

While the SOM completed module is costly, truth be told it ā€œrepresentsā€ the platform and is likely not intended for mass usage. The true benefits to SAM9x60 (and other entry-level MPUs) is that all the chips are readily available at fair prices, and can be custom-assembled to your needs. At $8 per SAM9x60 and at $3 to $5 for 128MB DDR2 (depending on vendor), and at $3 to $5 for the power-chip, youā€™ll get a minimal booting Linux box with a fully custom PCB design doing whatever you wantā€¦ with a fully customized motherboard / PCB doing whatever you want.

Another Devboard: https://www.microchip.com/content/dam/mchp/documents/MPU32/ProductDocuments/UserGuides/SAM9X60-Curiosity-User's-Guide-DS60001783.pdf

4-layer design again, though this time using the SiP module (on-board DDR2 to minimize the need to run impedance / delay-matched lines all over the place). This devboard costs $130, but the openness is likely well worth the costs. Its truly a design you can build on top of and customize yourself.

Coolā€¦ but why would I need this?

Well, to tell you the truthā€¦ I donā€™t know yet. Power-constraints are the obvious benefit to running with these chips (SAM9x60 + LPDDR RAM will use 1/10th the power of a Rasp-Pi4, while still delivering a full Linux environment). But beyond that Iā€™m still thinking in the abstract here.

Iā€™m mostly writing this post because Iā€™ve suddenly realized that a full custom MPU comparable to first-generation Rasp. Pi is doable by a modern hobbyist. Albeit a well studied hobbyist comfortable with trace-matched impedance controlled transmission line theory on PCBs, but I took those college-classes for a reason damn it and maybe I can actually do this.

Its a niche that 10 years ago was unthinkable for hobbyists to cheaply make their own SBCs from scratch. But today, not only is it possible, but thereā€™s 4 or 5 different vendors (Microchipā€™s SAM9x60, TIā€™s AM355x, STM32ā€™s STM32MP1, etc. etc.) that are catering to hobbyists with full documentation, BSPs and more. Weā€™re no longer constrained to the designs that Rasp. Pi decides to release, we can have those 2x Ethernet ports weā€™ve always wanted for example (forā€¦ some reason), or build a bare-metal OS free design using only 8MB of SRAM, or use LPDDR2 low-power RAM and build a battery-operated portable device.

Full customization costs money. Whatever hobby project we do with this will cost far more than a RP4 or even RP5ā€™s base price. Butā€¦ full custom means we can build new solutions that never existed before. And the possibilities intrigue me. Full control over the full motherboard means we have absolute assurances of our power-constraints, our size, the capabilities, supporting chips and other decisions. Do you want LoRA (long-range radio?). Bam, just a module.

And you might be surprised at how much cheaper this is today than its ever been before.

Conclusion

Thanks for hearing my rant today.

This form factor is really intriguing to me and Iā€™ll definitely be studying it moving forward as a hobby. Hopefully Iā€™ve manage to inspire someone else out there!

Andā€¦ yall are just going to make a quadcopter with this, arenā€™t ya? Sighā€¦ wellā€¦ drones are popular these days for good reasonsā€¦

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    11 months ago

    Itā€™s a great analysis, and I donā€™t disagree with anything you said (mostly because youā€™re better informed than I am). But you nailed it with ā€œWhy would I need this? I donā€™t know yet.ā€ It should all be driven by needā€”the fact their are more options is great, but doesnā€™t mean they should be used just because theyā€™re thereā€¦ For many hobbyists, ease of access and speed to get started is the main driver, and for those cases, pre-built boards are the answer.

    I remember talking to a car manufacturer in the early 2000s who said it would be relatively easy to make cars to a custom length / load space. But they tend to make specific models because if you give people too much choice, they get paralysed and donā€™t choose anything.

    I suspect itā€™s not quite that simple but the principle seems sound.

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      11 months ago

      Well, my self-deprecating humor aside, Iā€™ve of course thought about it more deeply over my research. So I donā€™t want to sell it too short.

      SAM9x60 has a proper GPU (albeit 2D one), full scale Linux, and DDR2 support (easily reaching 64MB, 128MB or beyond of RAM). At $3 for DDR2 chips the cost-efficacy is absurd (https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/issi-integrated-silicon-solution-inc/IS43TR16640C-125JBL/11568766), a QSPI 8MBit (1MB) SRAM chip basically costs the same as 1Gbit (128MB) of RAM.

      Newhaven Displays offers various 16-bit TFT/LCD screens (https://newhavendisplay.com/tft-displays/standard-displays/) at a variety of price points. Lets take sayā€¦ 400x300 pixel 16-bit screen for instance. How much RAM do you need for the framebuffer? (I dunno: this one https://newhavendisplay.com/4-3-inch-ips-480x272px-eve2-resistive-tft/ or something close).


      Oh right, 400 x 300 x 2-bytes per pixel and weā€™re already at 240kB, meaning the entire field of MSP430, ATMega328, ARM Cortex-M0 and even ARM Cortex-M4 are dead on the framebuffer alone. Now lets say we have a 10-frames of animation weā€™d want to play and bam, weā€™re already well beyond what a $3 QSPI SRAM chip will offer us.

      But lets look at one of the brother chips really quick: Microchipā€™s SAMA5D4. Though more difficult to boot up, this one comes with H.264 decoder. Forget ā€œframes of animationā€, this baby straight up supports MP4 videos on a full scale Linux platform.

      Well, maybe you want Rasp. Pi to run that, but a Rasp. Pi 4 can hit 6000mW of power consumption, far beyond the means of typical battery packs of the ~3-inch variety. Dropping the power consumption to 300mW (SAMA5D4 + DDR2 RAM) + 300mW (LCD Screen) and suddenly weā€™re in the realm of AAA batteries.


      So we get to the point where I can say: I can build you a 3" scale device powered by AAA batteries that runs full Linux and supports H.264 decode animations running on a Touch-screen interface, fully custom with whatever chips/whatever you want on it. Do I know what it does yet? No. Lol, I havenā€™t been able to figure that out yet. Butā€¦ surely this is a useful base to start thinking of ideas.