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    This only tells me you haven’t bothered to read any socialist theory - even a skim of a youtube video could tell you that all socialist claims are about material reality. Material conditions are central to socialist philosophy. Have you never heard of historical materialism, or dialectical materialism?

    And to suggest that it boils reality down to a battle of good and evil is… just baffling. Socialism relies on no moral claims whatsoever. Capitalism is simply irrational. Its mechanism just don’t work. Morality doesn’t even need to come up in discussion.

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      Yes, it’s all simplified to a battle between good workers and evil exploiters, and a messianic prophecy of the overthrow of the bourgeoisie and the stablishment of communism

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        a battle between good workers and evil exploiters

        Quote me where you heard this. Any socialist also sympathises with the capitalist.

        a messianic prophecy

        So, who is the messiah? Socialists favour collective action over charismatic leaders.

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          Sympathise with “the capitalist” like the Nazis who wanted to send the Jews to Madagascar instead of killing them?

          Also, you don’t seem to get metaphors, do you?

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            You just flip flopping don’t you? I thought you didn’t like moralising between good and evil? The sympathy is becuse capitalists must exploit in order to make a living, and if they’re a good person, it must be a hard thing to have to do.

            Yes, I get it’s a metaphor and doesn’t literally mean a song of God leading people to tge promised land. But the metaphor means a hero or liberator at the very least: an individual leading their people out of oppression into freedom. Socialists don’t think like this. It should be a democratic, popular, grssroots movement not led by any individual.

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              Where does it say it has to be an individual? “Workers” could be the messiah

              Also, no you don’t “empathise with the capitalist” don’t lie to yourselves

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                Where does it say it has to be an individual? Workers could be the messiah

                Lmao no. Not how messiah narratives work lad. Messiahs are heroic individuals. Stories about groups overcoming oppression are called revolutions or rebellions. Read a fucking book, mate.

                you don’t “empathise with the capitalist” don’t lie to yourselves

                Yes, yes I do. Because I know if I were in that position, I’d feel pretty damn awful about it. It’s hard enough just giving orders to begin with. It’s not a position that should exist. We seem to intuitively understand this with kings, but somehow capitalists is too far for people these day.

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                  The people that “overthrow capitalism” would be considered heroic individuals too

                  For example, Lenin’s mummy is exposed in a fucking public plaza in the capital of Russia like if he was a monument

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                    Nope, they would be working class getting what they deserve. Also, no one overthrew capitalism is Russia. They didn’t have capitalism to begin with. Learn your history. They also never ended up with communism, if that’s what you’re gonna say. They had a state capitalism. And the veneration of individuals ia another clue we’re not dealing with a system about the people.

                    I just love how you keep trying to prove me wrong, but can only find examples that prove me right. It’s beautiful.

                    I love you.