A marginalized group does not receive human rights, they are stripped of them. The removal of your birthrights should be violently opposed as soon as possible.

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    I don’t think I believe in natural rights.

    Our so-called natural right to free speech doesn’t give me the right to scream at a hungry bear and not face consequences.

    A marginal group does not receive human rights, but neither are they born with them and then have them stripped away. Rather, they gain rights through struggle. Rights are not natural, every single one was fought for and won.

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      Rights are not natural, every single one was fought for and won.

      Umm wasn’t there something called primitive communism? I assume they lived in peace without “rights” written on a piece of paper

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        Those rights weren’t written, but even the right to live was fought for and won by those primitive hunter/gatherers in collective struggle against nature itself. Primitive communism was how humans protected human rights from nature before we dominated it.

        Today rights are mostly threatened by other humans, but nature was the enemy of human rights once upon a time.

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          But the fight against nature is 100% natural? The predatory animal and humans dont try to “outdo” one another because of money(this motivates people to oppress others)?

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            Well literally everything is natural, the supernatural doesn’t exist. :V

            If the term “natural” is to mean anything at all, it must be “distinct from human choices.” Dying to a predator is natural because it’s something that happens to humans. The primitive commune making weapons to protect themselves from predators is not natural, that’s human struggle against nature. Nature didn’t give us natural weapons like claws or fangs or venom, every weapon we have we have to make ourselves. Our right to not be eaten was hard fought and won through countless deaths and through human ingenuity.

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              but once the struggle to survive is gone. There is no longer any money and people have plenty of food. Everyone has their materials need met plus luxuries. Why would people fight?

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                Even after we have abolished private property and wage labor, nature will keep creating new threats to our rights that we have to struggle against. Perhaps in some far future under FALGSC we can surpass nature and the eternal struggle for our rights will finally be won, but how could you call the rights we artificially constructed for ourselves “natural”? We only gained those rights by defeating nature!

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                  Ok but there must have been a time where people lived in peace. Then the farmers made the concept of money in the world. The word natural is extremely misleading.