I’ve seen several posts of people asking for advice on situations like this with so many answers suggesting OP to fight back, document and contact the union, but this seems too much work for an unconvincing result, because there is no way a manager is going to fire an employee or a clique for a “he claims she claims” situation.
Manager, employer, even the union, will listen to you, play theatrics and change nothing hoping you forget.
Walking away, while making you feel like a loser, seems to be the sane choice long term. Cliques are gonna clique.
Maybe you can think of a better way?
None of this makes any sense, and a LOT of detail is being left out.
What happened specifically? Say what you said and what was said back.
I don’t know what you mean exactly, but walking away at the right moment, while projecting the right feeling, is the best way to win most unwinnable arguments
I don’t even get it. there is a clique at work. so? what does that even mean?
Yeah, the language here seems to fall outside what you or I think of as a clique. To me it essentially just means a group of people but clearly there has to be some other definition.
I think it means Mean Girls who make fun of your outfit?
I don’t get why people get so bothered by shit like this. Just ignore them do ur work and fuck off when ur no longer getting paid. What are they gonna do sabotage your work? Just send em a polite email with something like:
dear such and such
I require abc to complete my designated scope of work as required. However due to xyz it is not feasible to so as required could you please remedy this issue.
Regards some asshole.
If its not effecting your work who gives a single fuck. Obviously u got the whole office politics game u need to play to get promotions pay rises etc. But a lot of large companied will use hard metrics to determine such things and u can game those systems.
A little more insight about the clique dynamic and ops relationship would be helpful here.
I guess you just need to document and escalate anything objectively wrong that they do. If it’s a one party consent state maybe you can record it, but I never experimented with that.
If HR can’t help you with any legitimate problems that a clique is causing, you’re probably right about the best option just being walking away. There’s nothing inherently wrong with cliques if it just refers to a group of friends.
Are your coworkers 16? I dont understand.
Maybe just be friends with older coworkers?
Fighting back, documenting and contacting the union usually doesnt work the first time but each time theres another incidence of something that could be considered inappropriate behavior the pressure mounts in your favor.
HR is there to protect the company, but once you can show a pattern HR is there to protect the company Once the cost of you potentially suing for them failing in their duty of care to protect you from workplace bullying and harassment is more than the cost of replacing the assholes doing it then they will act.
The biggest issue is with this that nobody is perfect, and you biting back one time or giving them anything to complain about you to management puts you back at square one.
If they aren’t actively giving you trouble, it’s best to just leave it alone.
Do you work directly with any of these people? If so have a private conversation with who you work with directly about how you feel.
If you don’t work directly with them, just remember the only thing these people have in their mean little lives is a bullshit job nobody gives a shit about.
Your ego will never help you at work.
Have you considered breaking one of their arms, and telling them next time you’re taking an eye?
I mean, there’s a chance you’ll get fired and/or arrested, BUT!! If you can get through it, nobody messes with the psychopath at work! Hooch is crazy!
Going by OP’s post, their co-workers can’t sue them; management will listen, the union will listen, but they’ll do some theatrics and nothing gets changed in the end. Just break their legs :-)
Now, this is some forward thinking. Straight into the solution! You only have to do this once. Pick the biggest jerk and enjoy it. Draw blood (metaphorically).
