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Summary
RFK Jr. is using private medical records to create a registry of people with autism in the United States.
The National Institutes of Health is helping to collect private medical records from government and commercial databases, including “prescription records from pharmacies, lab testing, and genomics records from the Department of Veterans Affairs and Indian Health Service, private insurance claims, and data from smartwatches and fitness trackers.”
Kennedy, a longtime critic of vaccination, has made the study of autism one of HHS’s primary goals. He has called autism “preventable” and claimed “he can find a cure for the condition by September.”
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Yep, if anyone had any doubt that MAGA = NAZI… well , MAGA = FUCKING NAZIS
These are almost entirely unregulated. There are no requirements that these facilities hire qualified staff, background check their staff, provide evidence based treatments. Children who are marked as mentally ill are not considered reliable narrators, so their accounts of abuse are not believed. (It’s funny - I try to report things that happened to me more than ten years ago, and it’s “too late” - but at the time they called me a liar, called it a symptom and hopped me up on Resperdal. How exactly does a teenager in one of these facilities get help?)
Turnabout Ranch, the place that Dr Phil sent kids like Bhad Baby to, allowed kids to be hurt.
There are already things in place that would facilitate an Aktion T4 style program. Southern states especially have horrendous child welfare systems, and children do die in “treatment.”
Didn’t the Nazi’s do this too?
Wonder if they’re gonna rebrand Aspbergers again as ‘the people useful to society’ again.
The school Hans Asperger sent autistic children to:
Am Spiegelgrund was divided into a reform school and a children’s ward, where sick and disabled adolescents were unwitting subjects of medical experiments and victims of nutritional and psychological abuse. Some died by lethal injection and gas poisoning; others by disease, starvation, exposure to the elements, and “accidents” relating to their conditions. The brains of up to 800 victims were preserved in jars and housed in the hospital for decades.
Yes. The first group of people exterminated by the Nazis were the disabled.
Yes. The nazis tried to cure autism… (/s if it’s not obvious).
Seriously, why are you comparing this to Nazis.
Why would you not? Unless you were sure there were checks and balances in places to ensure it doesn’t happen. Say, something like, not tracking disabled people, and/or, not abandoning judicial process and habeas corpus, and/or respect for legal precedence and norms that affirm trust in the process
It does, to me, seem like a violation of privacy (looks like patients have no consent in whether their private data is collected).
But, personally, I would think there would have been better, non-public ways of doing this if he really wanted to exterminate austistic people, etc.
It being public, makes me think he wants PR, etc and wants to be the dude to cure autism.
The PR is to desensitize us from them doing outrageous things.
We REALLY need to stop letting football coaches teach history in public education.
Lool thanks for the diss, I will try to keep my head held up high. Unless it was meant for the original comment, then I can forget about this ;(
You should probably forget about a lot of things.
Because the Nazis literally did this.
Check this out:
I cannot read the entire transcript, but from what I did read, it seems to be talking about how Nazis slaughtered children with autism.
Maybe you can draw the conclusion that he (rfk) is collecting data on autistic people so that he can slaughter them too, but that seems very far fetched doesn’t it?
If I’m missing something important from what I didn’t read, please let me know.
This administration is already sending innocent people to a concentration camp indefinitely and without a trial.
That seemed farfetched not too long ago.
I don’t know much about this, but just wanted to thank you for continuing the discussion even though I can’t myself because of a lack of knowlege here.
Others prefer insults 🥹
No, it does not seem far fetched. Look at the shit this administration is doing and wake the fuck up.
RFK jr, the Republican Joseph Mengele
Well somebody is ready to follow in the footsteps of the great dr Mengele already!
And with “great” I obviously mean sick psychopath
Fash
How do you discern autism from a smart watch, labs, pharmacy etc?
The trick here is they don’t actually care if it’s autistics or not. They just want want to create another “other” for society to Target. So you’ll get them blasting this on news all over the United States of America " see this perfectly normal looking heartbeat, this is the autism heartbeat. We needed to put whoever this terrible person is in whatever terrible position we’re going to put them in".
It’s just like sending people to El Salvador with mom tattoos. They don’t care if they’re in a gang or not.
Im double on the list for being autistic and trans! I’m gonna go to CAMP!
It’s going to be vaccines. That’s what RFK is looking for.
It’ll be suddenly revealed it’s a general health tracking database, and you’ll be denied healthcare coverage if you’re “not doing your part”, will be used to monitor women’s menstrual cycle to figure out who’s having “illegal abortions”, you’ll be fired for not waking up at 4:30AM to stroke the ego of the CEO, etc., all thanks to Palantir…
me being trans and autistic… haha i’m in danger
I don’t understand why everyone is upset. Aren’t registration lists like totally cool with everyone when it came to firearms? What’s the problem now? I thought they were a good thing!
When’s the last time autism murdered someone?
An admirable goal, even though I’m pretty sure current science says it’s not possible. I don’t think he’s smart, but maybe the actual smart people working on this will get somewhere, and if that helps people, that’s good.
Might not get anywhere, but I suppose it’s worth a try (assuming the academics involved think there’s a good reason).
At face value, it does seem like an invasion of privacy, if there’s no consent to share medical records, etc.
p.s. the nazi comments are kinda gross, if they wanted to exterminate disabled people, they surely wouldn’t need to make headlines about them gathering data, it could be a private affair.
You know what would be an admirable goal? Curing whatever made you post this comment. To that end I’ve put you in RFK’s database because you might be struggling with context.
Wow you have totally changed my mind about my original post!
Serious though, just here for discussion, but it seems that there’s a lot of sheep here that dont question anything or try to expand upon their knowledge… which is a problem, why can’t you reply with something constructive?
Keep reading your headlines that fuel your anger if that’s what you want, but don’t reply to people that oppose your views if you have nothing to add.
You had a chance with your reply to help me and possibly others understand your viewpoint more, but all you have done is make me hate u lol.
Tangent warning thats too late
Serious though, just here for discussion, but it seems that there’s a lot of sheep here that dont question anything or try to expand upon their knowledge… which is a problem, why can’t you reply with something constructive?
Have you considered that I chose to respond the way I did and not because I am a sheeple?
You had a chance with your reply to help me and possibly others understand your viewpoint more, but all you have done is make me hate u lol.
I am not responsible for your emotions.
It’s not contagious you fuckstick.
ah… aH… AH… AUTISM! 🤧
I’m more worried about why he’s doing it, than that he’s doing it to be honest, because the only realistic use case I see for this is eugenics.
In 1936, three years after taking power, the Nazis ordered families with a mentally or physically handicapped person to send them to nearby hospitals for the best treatment. Soon after, they started receiving letters that their loved one had passed away.
The first to notice the pattern was the clergy, who realized that the families in their congregations who had vulnerable members were ALL getting these letters, and they rightfully concluded that a euthanasia program was going on.
Many spoke out from the pulpit, demanding an end to this atrocity, and Hitler responded, saying he was shocked at this revelation, and promising to end it. He didn’t, of course, he just buried it, expanded it, and evolved it into the Holocaust.
To Nazis, the best way to reduce the statistics of autistic people, is to reduce the numbers of autistic people, and the first step in doing that is to compile their names.
Of course, the real issue is HOW are they going to reduce the autistic population? Considering how much MAGA openly admires the Nazis, it’s not hard to make an educated guess.
They don’t even have to kill anyone on purpose. They just have to force people to undergo experimental autism cures, which have historically killed patients. An example of this would be chelation therapy, aka using the medication used to remove heavy metals from the body under the (unconfirmed) assumption that autism is caused by heavy metals.
If a database is good enough to connect pharmacy records, medical records, and even health info from smart watches (which a doctor or insurance company would not have access to) then it would need to link patient info together in a way that’s not as anonymous as they claim it to be. Theoretically, this could be enough information to force someone into doing these experimental treatments in order to keep their driver’s license (even if they’re otherwise high functioning enough to not be hospitalized) or force someone to be hospitalized with promises of being taught to be more independent later down the line.
They don’t even have to kill anyone on purpose.
They intend to starve the disabled financially as community outcasts.
What are you saying? That the poor are outcasts looked down upon by the vast majority of people regardless of their political beliefs?
For some cases, being marginalized is far worse than dying.
They don’t even have to experiment on people, they just have to forcefully sterilize them.
This. This is way more worrisome than first glance.
The only result they will find is that autism diagnosis happens more often in areas where it’s socially acceptable o go see a doctor for concerns about mental health. Deep red states will have “less” autism because hardly anyone will be going to the doctor and expressing concerns that they may have autism, and then they just go undiagnosed.
Why is it so hard for some people to believe that there is genetic variation in the human brain?
Some believe that their way of thinking, their neurological tendencies are the “right way” to do things in life. Others who arent like that are wrong in their eyes. Same with skin color and religion.
Because the genetic variation is confused and muddled by foundational things they can’t understand.
Simple things like family structure and the importance of it. A lot of autism overdiagnoses are purely from the developmental differences; economic class, quality of life, nutrition, exposure, and obviously parents or lack there of.
For example, simple acts like kids getting to play in the dirt exposes them to beneficial bacteria. Which I could also see laying the groundwork for gut bacteria. With how common kids do try and eat it, along with developing nations cooking with it, seems at least conceptually plausible.
I believe in autism and am not denying its existence as my fiancée has autism.
I am more saying that there is a huge upbringing differential that can cause kids to experience trauma. Trauma that can give the same responses. Social media enables this issue by pushing kids who don’t have access to self identify, pushing a false representation. However, it is good for kids to be trying to put the pieces together - they just need help.
Trauma that can give the same responses.
That’s me! Early in therapy for CPTSD, we spent some time trying to determine if I’m autistic or just have autistic tendencies due to CPTSD. Turns out it was the latter.
The first people Nazi germany systematically exterminated were the disabled
So I guess it means now, that if you’re still undiagnosed in the US (and suspect to be autistic), better don’t let yourself diagnose… Sad times…
