• superniceperson@sh.itjust.works
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    ICE was still a fascist organization when Obama and Biden were the head of the regime.

    An antiblack cop that couldn’t win a primary is not a good candidate for the party whose voters include most black people and most anti cop people.

    She was objectively a bad dem candidate. Like all California Dems she’s more right wing than any other Dem in the country and is only running Dem to pull the party right.

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      But we’re talking politics right?

      So let’s look at our political line up. John McCain, Rashida Tlaib, Mitt Romney, Obama, Trump, Bush, Harris, Biden, Bernie Sanders, Ted Cruz, Desantis, Newsom, Ilhan Omar, Eric Adams, Booker, AOC, Clinton. Jill Stein, Greg Abbott, Marianne Williamson, Matt Gaetz

      Just some names of people who rotate in the news cycle or had runs or whatever. Really truly consider who Americans could vote for and who could become president.

      Now imagine you’re a progressive of any degree. Who has a chance to win and hits closest to your boxes? In 2020/2024 your options aren’t good. It’s cool to wish and pray for someone to come along and change that or be the person who would but realistically you shit in one hand and wish in the other, Harris is like top 3 options here. Sanders, Harris, Booker are who I’d gamble could make a run and maybe win against Trump. Harris being the weakest option and still not the worst.

      Ever been part of a performance or sports team or anything? It’s really easy to shit on the situation when you’re in the bleachers.

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        Obama was completely unknown before he ran for president, with absolutely zero national air time or accomplishments.

        The very foundation of your theory fails at the starting line. Name recognition isn’t important. Americans can’t name their own senators, much less random fox news featured senator number 41.

        And this isn’t sports. That’s the problem, people treating it like sports.

        Parties should be unconstitutional. Especially for president, but since we’re not there yet and won’t be until after the collapse, we should still not vote based on team. Vote blue no matter who got us Biden and trump. Its a terribly stupid, objectively fascist strategy that’s doomed to fail if not applied to fascist voters.

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          Okay and like I said shit in one hand wish in the other.

          These are the names currently. Keep wishing bro

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            They are not the names that will win, so either accept that and start working on solutions, or repeat the actions that brought you closer to fascism.

            Shitting in your hands will never fill them with food.

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              I disagree I think plenty of those names can win. I think out of them Harris isn’t this awful option a lot of morons believe she is.

              Y’all are so drastic and that pearl clutching panic got us here cause everything needed to be so hyper liberal or bust.