I was just looking at that windows 11 list yesterday. My mother-in-law has a 7th gen i3.
She’s not eligible to get windows 11, but her computer works surprisingly quickly. Well it did after I removed 2 different antivirus programs from it.
But it’s fine for what she uses it for “Netflix”, maybe an occasional dock.
No, Microsoft, I’m not buying her a new computer for that. If ever, she’d just get an iPad.
My wife’s in favor of just letting the computer get infected if it gets infected since it’s just a Netflix machine.
I’m not here to debate whether that’s a good idea or not, but I’m here to say that this is what is going to happen for the majority of people.
I’ll probably end up putting Linux Mint on it if the WiFi card will play nice, but I expect that it will.
It’s crazy that microsoft, a company that once had 90+ market share of the OS market and is now down in the low 70% range and falling, would rather force this shit and potentially lose people to ipads than simply just make an upgrade path for older hardware (that isn’t even that old)
What could possibly motivate this? They have to see the folly in such a decision with all their market research and shit. Do they really have the hubris to think that people will just go out and buy new hardware en masse because they said to so they could check emails, go on social media, and do streaming shit? Tinfoil hat time: were they influenced by a three letter agency or something to include the need for secure boot and tpm? Is there an exploit or backdoor in these?
I have to imagine it’s because most of their money comes from business customers who rely on windows and would have to spend tons of money to switch to something else or OEMs who are making new computers anyways who this won’t affect. There’s a reason windows upgrades have been free for a while, I don’t think they really care about getting money from people anymore, they’re just after money from businesses and OEMs.
Put my mother on mint. The only issue she encountered was the mouse cursor not appearing sometimes, but that hasn’t happened in a while. Other than that, she can hardly tell the difference from windows 10. You should go through with it.
She might get a video quality downgrade on Netflix because of DRM
Yeah, I’m thinking it couldn’t be worse than windows is now. It even sometimes will drop wifi connection. So how much worse could Linux be.
My main concern for her is how often she edits documents. Since she gets her pension, she needs to do paperwork for it occasionally, so I don’t want formatting to mess something up for her.
of all that shit microsoft forces upon you…
it’s the msa (online microsoft account) that’s the biggest deal-breaker for me.
absolutely not. never gonna happen.
be alpine linux
copy bootloader from the installer to ESP usb drive
load entire OS from bootloader to RAM
lbu commit, save changes to bootloader
378mb fully loaded to RAM
Linux. Hard disk optional.
I’ll take the computer on the right to the car wash and pressure wash it, then go find an air compressor to quickly dry it out.
Sure it might need a new fan and perhaps hard drive and other mechanical parts, but that looks almost totally salvageable.
Fun fact: Linux can actually run on faulty RAM, if you configure the kernel to just avoid the bad RAM regions.
Linux doesn’t actually need any functional components to run; if you put on enough pairs of programming socks and take some psychedelics you can simply sit in front of a blank screen and hallucinate a fully functional Linux distro!
How slow would that windows box be with the minimum specs? That seems like it would be a nightmare.
Linux on the other hand will run on anything and it’s glorious!
i have a laptop here with a gemini lake celeron n4000, 4gb ram, and 64gb emmc. it barely meets the requirements imposed by microsoft for win11.
windows 11 on it is as horrible as you might imagine. someone brought me one very similar last week to ‘fix’… basically same model but with upgrade to 16gb ram. was not any better at all. essentially unusable, just like mine. their ‘fix’ was buying a new ryzen 5 laptop 12 hrs later.
If you just let it run idle, it runs great! /s
Fr I had a computer with those specs 15 years ago wtf are they thinking lol
ok but can you run linux on a toaster
Of course, just make sure you paint a penguin on the side first.
I have Debian running on an ARM board that has 256MB RAM. Handles Audio and 720/video streaming without having to use swap.
I’m not using swap on my work and gaming PCs > 10 years now. I first started to question I need it, when I got a new PC going from 512MB to 2GB. Now I have 20GB in one of them and I don’t think I will ever be able to fill it all up until I get an upgrade again.
That’s amazing. Mind sharing more details?
Its a 2010 IOMega Home media hard drive, with OEM OS wiped off, and Debian imstalled. 32 bit armv6 board. Since it only has 256Mb the 3.12 kernel is the latest that would install, newer give errors about size, so I have it blocked from internet access. But you can see from the screen capture that once running is barely takes up 30% of that 256MB. Music streaming was my last use, previously was movie streaming using twonky until we got a 4k TV. Image is a few months back when it wasrunning openmediavault but I built a new server recently and this might just become a ups monitor or something. PS my date is wrong LOL 01 09 2025 vs 09 01 2025 I assume is what I did.
Windows 11 on 4GB of RAM? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight…
I’m curious. I just updated to Windows 11 because I got tired of the full-screen EOL IS COIIMING PANNIICC! messages. I also just moved. I will be plugging in my PC tonight and won’t have Internet until the day after tomorrow. I wonder if it’ll let me do anything.
If you upgraded an existing installation of Win 10 you should be fine, AFAIK the internet requirement is only for installing a new copy of Win 11.
Yeee they removed the oobe (or whatever) skip account command which is just a script to create a reg key so you can do it yourself for now
That’s good to know. Thanks!
You can run Linux on an esp32 using using a risc-v or pdp 11 emulator.
This is pretty old. I had to use the way back to find it.
500 Error
I must have forgotten to copy the archived link. I updated it.
Why have you (or whoever you got the image from) rewritten what the Windows screenshot says but in red?
Makes it a whole lot easier to read
Most modern Linux distros do use secure boot and TPM, but you’re right that they’re optional.
Yeah the UEFI requirement is likely specifically required for secureboot/TPM as well. TPM 2.0 didnt work well with legacy boot options. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, Microsoft wouldn’t force those things as requirements if they didn’t think they were going to be held liable in court to provide security for their users. Sure it sucks to have it “forced” but there are worse things to complain about. Like the Microsoft account requirement. Yet once again I’m sure that’s because if you encrypt a drive and forget your password, being able to prove your identity and reset the password is preferred to them than saying the data is gone. Only so many “my wedding photos” and such are unrecoverable you want to deal with. Having a solution for a forgotten password is better than not. And not encrypting the drives isn’t a better answer, as once again, your back to being sued. The advertisements and bloatware are what bother me much more.
But it should be optional with a very clear “if you don’t have this account then X could happen” warning and agreement. I don’t want a ms account, and my computer shouldn’t force me into it. That’s my gripe with that bit.
Yeah. It’s the manipulativeness of moving people to online accounts and hiding the local accounts. They still exist, because enterprise will always have them
Not just hiding, but actively blocking. Pissants.
