Dude all but endorsed Trump, called Harris a baby killer. Fuck him and his nonsense organization.
Of course popes have a wonderful history of supporting authoritarian monsters.
But ya gotta admit Vance deserved it from his perspective and that’s saying something
Just look up this pope’s history during the Argentinian coup. This isn’t his first rodeo.
Kudos to the Pope Francis and fuck Just Dumb. I would have sent the Swiss Guard and tossed his Russian supporting ass out of the Vatican.
I’m impressed he didn’t burst into flames.
Bullshit article, they met: https://www.vaticannews.va/it/papa/news/2025-04/jd-vance-incontro-papa-francesco-santa-marta-pasqua.html
Not bullshit, he was refused an audience the day before, which is what this article is referring to
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Yeah, I came here after seing them doing a photo OP and exchanging presents.
I hear the Vatican has some very attractive furniture.
I’ll never understand why people shit on him for fictional things when there’s plenty of real things to shit on him for.
I honestly think it helps him/MAGA, because it teaches them, their supporters, and impressionable others that people make stuff up about him to criticize, so they can safely ignore criticism of him.
Because the only things that actual bother him are being called a fucking loser and weirdo. The actually shitty things he does, he would do a million times and feel nothing.
And what you say can’t be true, or the millions of lies he told would matter more.
What makes you think that he cares if people say he fucks couches?
He doesn’t want to look weird. That’s all. He wants people to think he’s normal, and by proxy, that all of his insane fascist beliefs are normal.
You didn’t answer the question, presumably because you don’t have one.
To a fascist, image is everything. Ruin their image for the sad, fucking weirdos that they are makes fascists weak.
I think part of it is about making him into a joke to prevent him from gaining the cult following necessary to be another trump. I don’t think trump supporters would care about the valid criticisms, but the idea he has sex with couches is provocative and humorous, and seems to have become one of the only things a lot of people know about him.
There’s plenty factual stuff to use that far right people hate though:
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Being in the military with zero people skills means he was an ineffectual leader and a desk driving paper pusher
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He wears eyeliner
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He grew a beard to hide his weak chin
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He’s a white nationalist with a minority wife who looks like she’s at gunpoint every time she’s on camera
Again, inventing a lie to attack him with will just galvanize his supporters. Use what’s already true and very conflicting with far right ideology.
The attack point has to be something that both sides of the political spectrum finds repulsive. If only right wingers have a problem it makes the lefties look like hypocrites, and if it’s something only people on the left care about it’s ineffective.
Eyeliner and weak chins/beards aren’t things people on the left tend to take issue with, while white nationalism and misogyny aren’t things people on the right take issue with.
The military thing could work, but it’s not punchy enough, it’s too specific and not very funny. The couch fucker jokes are easy laughs.
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Your standards for MAGA cultists is way too high. They won’t ever know the difference between fact and lie, and they won’t care if they eventually learnt about it. Words and facts means nothing to them, it is all about “winning”.
“they didnt tell me how wonderful the vaticans taste in furniture was…mmm…mmm…mmmm…”
My opinion of the Pope just went up.
Don’t be fooled, he’s still a huckster shithead. Always happy to see them turning on each other though.
Don’t get me wrong, my opinion is still negative just slightly less negative than yesterday.
A huckster shithead who runs cover for child rapists every single day.
The Catholic Church has never lived down its association with the last Nazis that rose to power, they aren’t making that mistake again.
“Fuck those guys.” - current Pope.
The catholic church strongly opposed the Nazis. A lot of christians were killed by the Nazis because of this. The pope is more like: like: “Fuck, not those guys again”
I was gonna say, IIRC the Nazis kept trying to hide in ancient cathedrals, because they thought the allies wouldn’t bomb them. The Pope at the time told the allies to burn and bomb the Nazis out.
The catholic church strongly opposed the Nazis
🤣 What??? Holy shit, lack of historical knowledge batman!
Would you like to refute the statement instead of just saying they don’t know what they’re talking about?
I’ll start - Catholics were amongst (there were many) the first groups that the Nazis started targeting. It’s not a coincidence that the intellectuals, the Jews, the Catholics, etc. were also the ones that had some reaallly nice silverware that would look great in the Fuhrer’s country home. If nothing else, Catholics would be acting in their self-interest to oppose the Nazis.
It’s less black and white than either of you guys are implying. You’re taking about Pope Pius XII, who was Pope from 1939 to 1958. He’s credited with saving hundreds of thousands of Jews through various means, including support to the resistance, but also by showing some had been converted/baptized, which in itself was controversial. But he also feared the Nazis were going to win the war and that the church would have to exist in a Nazi world. He never clearly spoke out against the holocaust, and though a lot of the things he said, including his sermons, can be taken as condemnation of Jewish persecution, the language was pretty subtle. Also, Hitler had an envoy secretly meeting with Pius from pretty early on, which many say was bad in itself. Still, he also helped the allies with intelligence, to the point where Hitler accused him of espionage and had plans to kidnap him.
That’s really interesting, thanks! I have no problem with being told I’m wrong, I do have a problem with someone just saying “lol you’re wrong” with no evidence.
Oh, for sure. It’s not an area that I’m an expert in, but your conversation got me curious because I had heard both things, so I read a few articles. One of the interesting things is that the bit about Hitler’s envoy wasn’t broadly known until 2020 when the Vatican released a whole mess of documents that had been kept hidden previously. So there’s maybe more reason for some people to have one impression based on what they grew up hearing, and others to have a different one based on more recent info, but even with the new info it seems nuanced.
It’s easy to fault anyone who didn’t take a clear stand against Hitler from this vantage point, but it must have been hard to be a world leader facing the possibility that Hitler would be successful and you’d have to deal with his empire. Pius XII supported the allies and it’s obvious he was against Hitler, but he was reluctant to be overtly vocal about it, and he even entertained the envoy, which maybe he saw as hedging his bets (we can’t know exactly what he was thinking). It’s for sure stained his legacy.
Indeed, read the book, “The Unholy Trinity.”
Get fucked JD you complete and utter douchebag
Get fucked JD you complete and utter douchebag
Love,
-The Pope
The rest of the world should take this approach. If everyone just plain ignored and ghosts the US’s emissaries it would be pretty funny.
Not just their emissaries. Ghost everyone up to FatBoy Tangerine, and beyond.
If there is ever another voted in president and this new ‘leader’ is a decent person, not just a tRUMP puppet. Then ghost them as well for allowing that orange turd to walk free after all the treasonous shit he pulled in his first term.
Based and punitive pilled
we all know the pope is a radical left lunatic activist pope. he should be impeached, and joe rogan should be the new pope. /s
Guess he never said thank you.
He was wearing the wrong costume.
fuck me, i’m just a peasant.
I mean, if you insist…
i’m busy milking the cows… can we do it in the dairy air?
I think I can help you with that 😏 though I can’t get much airtime, sorry.
He Just Does Vanking himself.
Donuts are the body of Christ.
In February, without naming names, the Pope directly refuted a Catholic concept Vance had twisted to justify deportations. Vance had cited ordo amoris—the “order of love”—to argue that Americans should come first.
Francis responded: “Christian love is not a concentric expansion of interests that little by little extend to other persons and groups.”
Vance, acknowledging the rebuke, called himself a “baby Catholic” and admitted, “there are things about the faith that I don’t know.”
Dude, I’m not Catholic at all and I could have told you that. It’s not really complicated to see that Catholic interpretation Jesus would whip you out of the temple.
His boss being a rapist felon that never faces consequences let alone justice. And we’re all supposed to turn a blind eye in their world.
Turning a blind eye is the only way conservatism can function.
I’m an apostate and I can say that if you managed to get to the eucharist you should know that when you don’t know something about catholic doctrine you’re supposed to run it up the msgisterium. That’s what they’re there for. Priests go to college for this shit and usually can set you right. If they don’t know they can ask a bishop. If it’s pressing and uncertain the pope may need to make a call. And if a world leader asks it the pope actually might
Even if you aren’t big on Catholicism, do we think Jesus would advocate harming migrants to put yourself first? This is the guy who said the widow person donating two coppers is a exemplary person because they gave everything they had. From a Catholic pov, surely the right move would be to help migrants over enriching yourself.
Supply Side Jesus would. And let’s be honest that’s the Jesus they pretend to follow.
I don’t know what interpretation of Jesus wouldn’t whip him out of the temple. It’s hard to twist the part about loving your neighbor like yourself into yourself coming first.
He’s living that neighbour lovin’ by shagging their chaise lounge.
Now that he knows that deportations are against Christian love, will he be against them?
No
I bet!
I hate the Vatican but that’s a total mob boss move.
