Ok, Lemmy, let’s another play a game!
And I honestly think this one’s more important.
Post how many languages in which you can say Please and Thank You, including your native language. If you can, please provide which languages and how to phonetically say them so the rest of us can learn!
I spent a fair amount of bopping around Europe in the early Aughts and as a native English speaker, I found everyone appreciating my bad mangled attempts at politeness.
Do programming languages count? :)
Here’s Go:
package main import "fmt" func main() { fmt.Println("Please and Thank You") }But how do you do it in Rust?
Here’s Rust:
fn main() { println!("Please and Thank You"); }Here it is in Commodore 64 BASIC:
10 PRINT “PLEASE AND THANK YOU.” 20 GOTO 10Here’s a horrific example of bash and JS mashed together
echo "console.log(process.argv[2])" | node - "Please and thank you"or bash and python if that’s your thing?
echo "import sys; print(sys.argv[1])" | python - "Please and thank you"Or Bash, JS AND Python if you’re feeling extra masochistic
echo "console.log(\"import sys; print(sys.argv[1])\")" | node | python - "Please and thank you"
Why is it that this got the most upvotes, compared to the more genuine comments in this thread? :)
Bissäguet, Merci (Swiss German)
Bitte, Danke (German)
Please, thank you (English)
S’il vous plait, merci (French)
Par favore, grazie (Italian)
Bonvolu, dankon (Esperanto)
Onegaishimasu, Arigatougozaimasu (Japanese)Zero. 🖕🏻
Ah yes the Texas thank you 😝
Two languages. English and Maori.
Thank you in Maori is “kia ora” (key-ah or-ah, but mostly said more like k-your-ah). Literally translates to “be well”, kia meaning be, ora meaning life/wellness.
Please in Maori is a bit less clear. There is the word “koa” (I don’t know how to phonetically write it, but all the letters are pronounced the same as above), but that’s a concept that came with pakeha (European settlers). Before that, it was more about the tone of the request.
Edit: actually I do know more, but English and Maori are the two main languages I know any of.
“Please” and “thank you”. English.
(Pleez ahnd thank yehw)
“Oes gwelwch chi’n dda” ac “diolch”. Welsh/Cymraeg.
(Oys gwel ook kheen thza ak deeolkh)
“Por favor” y “gracías”. Spanish/español.
(Pour fah vour ee gras ee AHS)
Real languages only, please!
/s
thought i missed the klingon…
went back…
ohhhhhhhhh…
Welsh is amazing I never knew them but I love how “Welshman” they sound.
Languages I’m fluent:
- Spanish (Por favor, Gracias)
- Portuguese (Por favor, Obrigado/a)
- English (Please, Thank you)
Languages I can mostly understand but I’m a disaster speaking:
- Italian (Per favore, Grazie)
- Catalan (Si us plau, Merci (Technically Gracies, but most people use Merci))
Languages I can speak small child like phrases and express some simple things (although I’m very rusty in both of them):
- Russian (пожалуйста (Pajalsta), спасибо (Spaciba))
- German (Bitte, Danke)
Languages I can say “I’m sorry, I don’t speak X, do you speak English?” (Which I think is more important than just please and thank you)
- French (Si vous plat, Merci)
- Dutch ( [don’t know this one], dank je)
- Finnish ( * , Kiitos)
Languages I can say Please and thank you (because I’ve seen enough TV in this language):
- Japanese (Onegai, Arigato)
* There’s no word for please in Finnish, which you’d think makes the language sound harsh, but I think it’s the other way around, it makes everyone be polite by default, when going into a coffee shop and saying “one coffee” is the equivalent to “hello, can I please have one coffee, thanks” it’s hard to be rude.
Can you expand on the Finnish? Is it engrained in the language somehow?
I don’t really speak Finnish, so probably someone can expand better, but AFAIK they don’t have a word for Please. When I was in Finland I went to a coffee place with a friend, and noticed he said “yksi kahvi” which literally means one coffee, when he got his coffee he said “Kiitos” (thanks), I noticed no one used any recurring word that could mean Please, so I asked my friend and he said something like “They’re all being polite, we just don’t have a word for please, one could say something like: I would like a coffee, Thanks. But that’s just overcomplicated”
Native here. I think this is pretty accurate. Politeness is usually tied to other phrasings or modes of speaking, and as an ESL speaker I just think “please” is just a word that gets sprinkled in. In everyday conversations like buying something, it’s kinda more polite to get the thing over with as fast as possible. If you just want a coffee, you don’t need more than “hey” and “thanks” to be nice, right?
That said, it’s definitely not impossible to be explicitly polite: “Ole hyvä”/“Olkaa hyvä” (“[You] (2p. sg./pl.) be kind”) is basically “please” as in “could you do…” or “here you go, have this” or “go ahead and do that” depending on context. “Ole kiltti” (“[You] (2p.sg.) be nice”) is “please” as in “would you be especially kind to do…” But as you can see, these are basically direct orders, it’s “be kind”, not “please be kind”.
So like impolite would be “give me a coffee”, polite is “would you give me a coffee?” instead of “coffee please”. Makes sense, thanks!
Gracies -> Mallorca
Mercés -> Cataluña
Mercí -> ¿cerca de la frontera con Francia?
The place I hear Merci daily is Barcelona
🤷♂️
German Bitte, Danke
English U KNOW
French S’il vous plâit, merci
Spanish Por favor, graçias
Italian Per favore, grazie
Czech Prossim, djekuju
…6 ig :D
In order of fluency (for languages spoken, although German was only studied and any fluency has rusted out):
Portuguese: Por Favor/Obrigado
English: Please/Thank you
Spanish: Por Favor/Gracias
Farsi: Lotfan/Merci (plus many more elaborate ways of thanking)
German: Bitte/Danke
For languages I don’t speak at all, but only know because of friends who are native speakers:
French: s’il vous plait/merci
Romanian: Va rog/multumesc
Italian: Per favore/Grazie
Oh I like the Romanian please. That sound fun to say.
Yeah, Romanian is so weird to me as a native Portuguese speaker - there are so many cognates. I am good friends with a Romanian family and when they talk all sorts of words are completely understandable coming from Portuguese…
For me: English, Irish, french, German, Indonesian, Malaysian (same as Indonesian), japanese I’ve thank you in Turkish, Thai,
For Irish Please is: le do thoil (é). Translates as; by your will (it). Pronounce : le duh hull ay.
For thank you: Go raibh (míle) maith agat. Translates as may (a thousand) good things be/fall upon you. Pronounce : guh rev mee-la moh a-gut
For pronunciation, I’m using Munster dialect. It can be quite different for other dialects.
Other languages seem to be covered by others, so I thought I’d add the Irish in more detail.
Please and thank you
S’il vous plait et merci
And in ASL but that dont translate to text too well.
I just looked up please and thank you in ASL and now I know. Thank you.
In the order I learned them:
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🇷🇴 Romanian: Vă rog / Mulțumesc (native)
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🇨🇵 French: S’il-vous-plaît / Merci
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🇬🇧 English: Please / Thank you
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🇪🇦 Spanish: Por favor / Gracias
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🇯🇵 Japanese: Onegai / Arigato
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🇨🇳 Mandarin: Qing / Xiè xie
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🇮🇹 Italian: Per favore / Grazie
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🇩🇪 German: Bitte / Danke
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🇷🇺 Russian: Pozhalusta / Spasiba
Thanks I knew spasiba but Pozhalusta I just learned.
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Interesting, I seem to know “thank you” in a few languages, but not “please”. I wonder what that indicates…
Spanish: por favor, gracias
French: sil vous plait, merci
Indonesian: ?, terima kasih
Mandarin: ?, xie xie
Japanese: ?, arigato
German: ?, danke
Italian: ?, grazie
Aussie: oi, cheers/ta (/s)
Ah yes the classic Aussie Thank you - Ta, ya cunt!
So, this is an odd one because I travel a lot and try to learn basic words in local languages, usually hello, please, thank you, sorry/excuse me, and numbers are my basic go to. For some reason, in a number of languages “please” isn’t something you get by default. I’ve found this particularly in southeast Asia.
I can say please and thank you (and generally converse and read) in French and Spanish. In Spanish I find myself using “por favor” a lot. “You’re welcome” takes different forms in Spanish depending where your are, and what’s polite in one place can be confusing or even rude in another.
I can say hello, please, and thank you in German, Italian, and Greek. I mostly said hello and thank you in Greece and Italy, rarely please. I’ve never actually used German in situ, I just know it from pop culture I think.
I can say hello and thank you (and various other things) in Japanese, Chinese (Mandarin), Malay, Thai, Lao, Khmer, and Vietnamese. I might need to think hard for a minute or get a quick refresher so that I don’t mix some of them up sometimes, especially when I’m moving from one country to the next… I don’t think I ever learned please specifically in any of these, though I think it’s kind of built into the other things you say in a lot of them (especially Thai).
So, please and thank you, 6 for sure. But if the goal is to talk about language basics for getting around as a visitor, I would say 13 :)
That fascinating. I wonder if it’s a cultural thing or a grammar thing? Most Asian countries have a stereotype of being polite so I’d take a guess at the grammar of Asian languages making it harder to put a mood changing word in a question maybe,
Yeah I definitely don’t know enough to say. You can definitely translate please in translators for those languages, but for whatever reason I just haven’t been seeing it in language basics. Once I spend more time there I’ll learn more.
For Thai specifically, you say “ka” (if you’re a woman) or “kraub”/“kaub”/“kaup” (if you’re a man) at the end of everything you say. Whenever you finish a sentence you say it. I saw a woman relating a phone number, and she would say “ka” after every number. It’s all about politeness.
- Merican. Gods language and the best language. You know I speak better Merican that anyone ever did. The best. Everyone says it. One time I was talking to Elon. I call him fuck boy the cum dumpster. No one treats me like he does. But, he was telling me you speak the best Merican. No one can talk as good as you do. Everyone says it. Maybe I should write a book about how good my English is. It would be the most huge book ever.
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That orange man has never said Please in his entire lifetime
You speak such good Merican that I’m going to trust you with our nuclear codes
i can say thank you in more languages than i can say please in.
perhaps that says something about me
Obligado
Dankeschön
Merci Beaucop
Thank you
Gracias
Domo Arigato (only in latin type, i have no chance of reading/spelling anything in Kanji)
You’ve nailed my languages:
Por favor (you’ll see this later)
Bitte (had to check the spelling, but I knew how to say it)
S’il vous plait
Pleeeeeeeeeease
Por favor
I dunno about Japanese.
I can also say it in sign language.
For reference, I am a 37 year old dude from Jersey. I took French in middle and high school (we got to go to Quebec in the eighth grade because someone thought that was a good idea). We have large spanish and Portuguese speaking populations, and my mom’s stepmother was also from Cuba, so we got some lessons early on. My high school girlfriend did the German thing so I picked up a little (ich haba einen bruder). Wife speaks pretty fluent sign language. Can also say Kurwa, but that’s neither please nor thank you.
