Trump blows off honoring dead soldiers to attend golf tournament
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President Donald Trump isn’t attending the dignified transfer of four American soldiers who died in Lithuania, because he has instead chosen to attend a Saudi-backed golf tournament at his country club in Doral, Florida. Staff Sgt. Jose Duenez Jr.,...

President Donald Trump isn’t attending the dignified transfer of four American soldiers who died in Lithuania, because he has instead chosen to attend a Saudi-backed golf tournament at his country club in Doral, Florida.

  • LeninOnAPrayer@lemm.eeEnglish
    12·
    2 days ago

    What part of what I said was emotional? I feel like people just say this in order to not address what is actually being said. You simply say “you’re being emotional” and then you don’t have to address your own contridictions.

    I’m pretty clear in pointing to the terrorism of both ISIS and the US military. I’m not using “emotion” I’m pointing to the material actions of these organizations that result in the deaths of innocent people. And if we were considering scale the US military would be far far worse. Even if we adjusted for the time they existed.

    You are clearly the one trying to appeal to emotions. Pointing to the deaths of individual soldiers of these organizations. Like because they are humans in a uniform we have to “respect or honor” them. That is extremely emotional and not at all based in judging them by their material actions.

    You can understand the circumstances that led these people to be in their roles in a terrorist organization. But you definitely do not have to “honor” or “respect” them. To do so is to endorse the material circumstances that lead to them being a part of that terrorist organization to begin with.

    You’re really missing the point here and keep sidetracking by trying to say I’m “being emotional”. When you are clearly the only one appealing to emotions.

    • Madison420@lemmy.world
      31·
      2 days ago

      You’re literally making an emotional argument, “terrorist” isn’t a factually based claim as one man’s terrorists are anothers freedom fighters. You really aught not to be a grammer Nazi on top of a bigot, it’s not a good look.

      Pointing to the deaths of individual soldiers of these organizations.

      It’s literally the subject of the article, not terrorism, not war.

      No dude, you’re missing the point.

      Tesla protestors, terrorists or protestors? If they die should I show them no respect. Draw some lines, let’s see what kind of escher on crack artwork it comes out as.

      • LeninOnAPrayer@lemm.eeEnglish
        11·
        2 days ago

        Again, you shifted the goal post so now the conversation has to be about the definition of “terrorism”. That’s fine. We can have that conversation. But that is not at all “emotional”.

        You keep assigning “emotional” as a way to avoid the point and then trying to change the topic.

        It’s exhausting. And it’s a sign that you don’t want to actually argue in good faith. You’ve gone full “debate lord”. Goodnight mate.