From Reddit to the New York Times and TMZ, there’s an ongoing effort to squash the wave of popular anger at for-profit healthcare that Luigi Mangione represents.
From Reddit to the New York Times and TMZ, there’s an ongoing effort to squash the wave of popular anger at for-profit healthcare that Luigi Mangione represents.
Dude, come on. We’ve had children working in mines, the great depression, proxy wars from hell, Jim Crow laws, this is not our first rodeo at being shitty humans. Saying the collapse is about to happen is an extremely unuseful take, even if it’s true. There are solutions, what are they?
The country has collapsed several times, because of those things. The Civil War was the US collapsing over the rich landowners refusing to move away from slavery. The great depression was also a collapse of the old order, and ushered in the current MIC-based order.
The solution to the Civil War and slavery was Reconstruction, which was so successful that the rich rallied a counterrevolution to resuppress people. The solution to the great depression was the war economy and global looting that kicked off after WW2. Looting the planet with petrodollars has kept Americans complacent and happy enough til now but the rich have run out of places to loot other than home.
So now we’re back in crisis, perched on the edge of a new collapse. After several million or billion people are killed by disasters and genocide, things usually settle back into a prosperous mode for the survivors for a while until the stupid rich take over and collapse the system out of greed. Again.
Do you feel like WWII, the Korean War or Vietnam collapsed us? Do you think the end of the Jim Crow laws collapsed us? What about women voting or Covid? There are other options besides complete collapse.
Yeah it’s called moving away from capitalism and into socialism.
Who said anything about “being shitty humans?”
I’m talking about a very specific dynamic - a civilization in which there is widespread citizen discontent and whether the government acts to alleviate that discontent legitimately or merely acts to divert or stifle it.
The former allows for solutions so allows for recovery. The latter leaves the problems to rot and fester, and is a death sentence.
So you saw all the private linked sources doing that. And concluded government?
I would’ve likely been better off with a broader term - something like “the wealthy and empowered few” - particularly since the subject at hand concerns the United States, in which the line between private wealth and power and political power grows more vague and hazy day by day.
But yes - ultimately I conclude government, since government is the entity that has established the legal fiction of corporations, that has acted to protect the private wealth by which the political influence to establish things like a predatory health insurance system can exist and has utterly failed to do one of the few things that is a mandate for a government from the start - to protect citizens from harm brought by others and/or to punish those who bring it.
Or to be more precise, if the government had done its job of protecting Americans from a destructive and predatory health insurance system (as opposed to literally mandating it), Luigi’s vigilantism likely wouldn’t have occurred in the first place, and certainly wouldn’t have had so much support if it had.
But since they didn’t do their job, it happened, and if they continue to not do their job (as it appears they’re determined), then it will happen again, and worse.
Have you looked around outside recently?
Rebuilding after a collapse tends to be rather constructive.
I see what you did there.
It’s both a joke and serious!
Just like a strong onion, it has layers and brings painful tears to your eyes just by existing and being true!
TBH I think most luigi worshippers are just accelerationists who think he will be useful as a martyr.